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[–]AnokiFrench 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah even as a bi girl , I know deep inside I would never date one of them, too many problems, but lesbians are the most pressured to , with gays and I feel sad for that

[–]Eurowoman24 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

same here, I do find that interesting though that you wouldn't. Don't know how bisexuality works so I hope I don't say something offensive, but the TRAs always say that bisexuals are more likely to go for them when advising each other on finding dates. Apart from the obvious turn off personality wise most seem to have, do you have a physical aversion like L, Gs and straights would?

[–]AnokiFrench 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Being bisexual is liking the two sexes , not every glittery gender identity ever , pansexuality exist for a reason and tra’s are saying a lot of lies just to feel validated, without the accord of said sexuality , and why personally i find then unattractive I want something stable, someone that look like a man or a woman while saying being one , not a mindfuck of a human being, and if someone say they are a woman I want to find woman genitalia under not male genitalia , and being stuck with someone psychological problem is not my thing, but these are my reasons

[–]Eurowoman24 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

makes sense! Thought I'd ask because they use bi-sexuals as a gotcha.

[–]AnokiFrench 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They think sex equal gender identity, so they tell this lie to feel validated, but not many bi people want to date them

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't know how bisexuality works so I hope I don't say something offensive, but the TRAs always say that bisexuals are more likely to go for them when advising each other on finding dates. Apart from the obvious turn off personality wise most seem to have, do you have a physical aversion like L, Gs and straights would?

Even though I wasn't the one you asked, would it be OK for me to give my 2 cents here? (What with my flair and all!)

In order to answer this question, I think we should first address the matter you mentioned before that: how bisexuality works.

Bisexuality is a sexual orientation. Like the others: homosexuality and heterosexuality. So it's about attraction to biological sex. In our case, both of them (male; female). Which means that it has nothing to do with "gender".

As to your question: given the above, I think that the answer would be "yes", for the same reasons it is with LGs/straight people-- namely, our attraction being sex-based. So if physical sex-characteristics are mixed up/altered... we can't respond to that; it's not what we're wired for. Same thing with substituting "gender" for sex. All of this is, in short, unnatural. And it affects us accordingly: as confusing, off-putting, and wrong. Which will most likely find expression in the form of physical aversion.

That date-seeking TRAs consider bi people their best bet is probably more a function of ignorance about/disrespect for bisexuality than anything else (except perhaps wishful thinking). Since we typically aren't recognized as a sexual orientation at all, bisexuality is understood to mean not caring about biological sex (either because we're "hearts not parts" or "anything that moves"). So anything-- from inverted dicks to frankenpeens to attraction being all about "gender"-- is automatically A-OK with us.

Additionally, I think that "liking both" is too often assumed to mean "liking any form of both"-- such as bodies medically-altered to (kinda sorta) approximate the opposite sex, and/or people who don't "identify" as their sex. Not so. First, we're probably going to perceive these individuals less as hawt-hermaphrodite "both"s than as uncanny-valley versions of their actual sex. Second, being bisexual means "liking" MEN and WOMEN, not manwomen/womanmen/gender-whatevers; combos aren't any more appealing than with your favorite foods (tuna salad sandwich and hot fudge sundae all mixed together, anyone?).

[–]Eurowoman24 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for taking the time to reply! I knew that bi-sexuality was a sexual orientation but based on the rhetoric out there I wasn't sure about some of the claims that can be found. Your answer clears things up!

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're very welcome! :) Glad to have been of help.

And parenthetically, your observation about not knowing how bisexuality works is an important one-- I've only just come to realize how much. Because, even though in this particular case (physical aversion to trans: yay or nay?), we're the same as LGs and straight people, it's nonetheless true that our sexuality IS fundamentally different from theirs. With respect to the very nature of it-- or, as you yourself put it: the way that it works.

Which doesn't mean that we're either some weird aliens or magical unicorns, of course-- sexual orientation being such a basic human trait, having one is the very essence of unremarkable. But having the only one that's not monosexual is pretty significant, I think. That fact needs to start being recognized without being stigmatized.

Oh, and I never meant to suggest that you didn't know bisexuality was a sexual orientation! Only pointing out that, where attraction to "trans" is concerned, ALL sexual orientations are, in effect, identical: they're sex, not gender, based. So faux-sex-characteristics/gender-identity won't work with ANY of them. It's as though the genderists have invented a sexuality for some alien species and are trying to impose it on humans, or something. "Just rewire your brains and reconfigure your basic psychology to find us attractive! No biggee, right? Next up: attraction based on blood type!" And overnight, on-demand evolution of telepathy and becoming silicon- rather than carbon-based lifeforms, probably.