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    [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    Femininity disparaged by society? Yeah, it is called misogyny. But lesbians? I guess in the lesbian community has been influenced a lot by heteronormativity and stereotypes and the fact that lesbian spaces aren't a thing anymore, it is actually a good thing for not having the peer pressure of following stereotypes. I had read that in the past the peer pressure of heteronormativity in lesbian spaces were horrible, couple of both masculine women were hated, both feminine were not taken seriously, only butch and femme reproducing an hetero couple were respected. Personally, I think people who really seriously use the femme and butch labels will be a walking gender stereotypes and reproduce heteronormative in the relationships. The best are neutral girls, who look average and I think are most lesbians, not masculine, but not even be look obsessed hiper-femme, and they will not use these labels and will be usually interested in girls like them.

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      [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Yeah, well, I would expect a masculine women to hate femininity, but I mean not lesbians in general. I don't think most lesbians are masculine, but not even hyperfeminine. I think that if one if butch and the other is feminine, they will surely be more likely to fall into a hetero dynamic, comparing to when both are feminine. Better to stay away from lesbian scene, that's for sure.

      [–]ColoredTwice 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I've noticed you are heavily disliking gender non-conforming women. Is it personal experience or just stereotype bias? I often see people with similar bias are comparing butch lesbians to that american lesbian club, where women were taking male or masculine names, while it is not representive of all gender non-conforming women.

      Low acceptance of GNC women (and men) is creating good fertile ground for gender theory and this situation where they want to escape being hated for being GNC by transitioning (society is much more accepti and protective to transes than GNC people).

      [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

      What I dislike is heteronormativity, not women who dress and act like they want. Any reminding me of an hetero couples or maliness makes me allergic lol But you are right. Gender conformitivy have to be encouraged when it's natural, other it will lead to a lot of transition like it's happening

      [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Low acceptance of GNC women (and men) is creating good fertile ground for gender theory and this situation where they want to escape being hated for being GNC by transitioning (society is much more accepti and protective to transes than GNC people).

      Actually I agree with this. Hostility and prejudices/stereotypes about gender-non-conformity is creating all this gender movement. Makes this part of the issue, not solution of it.

      [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      As a very feminine man I could not agree more. Society already pressures us, no need in extra pressure from within the LGB community itself to be "more conforming". Just because I am feminine does not mean that "I want to be a woman and play a role of wife in relationships" - it is (trans)gender theory thing to believe in that. I am a man and want relationship with a man, and in relationship I am more often dominating than not.

      Saying that "feminine gay want to play a wife role" or "butch lesbian want to play a husband role" is catering to transgender ideology with their "feminine man is a woman" or "masculine woman is a man".