BisexualBisexuality has always been inclusive of gender identities : bisexual

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[–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift. 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Since when?

Since the trans brigade got angry that bisexuals didn't want them?

I hate when they say stuff like: "the meaning of words change over time, bigot!"

Yup! They sure do! But they shouldn't change just because you woke up and decided you're offended by the meaning of the word.

[–]LasagnaRossa 20 insightful - 10 fun20 insightful - 9 fun21 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

And words change when everyone agrees on the new meaning! If I start to call "cat" a spoon, the meaning of cat isn't changed, I'm just a weirdo who likes to call her spoons "cats".

[–]Rosefield 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not change that's abuse and destruction

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

lol @ the comments full of people falling all over each other to screech about how they would totally be willing to fuck a hypothetical trans person possibly someday maybe. 1: I bet every single one of them would come down hard on someone saying "I can't be racist because my partner is black." 2: What happened to figuring out your sexuality based on real people and real feelings that you've actually had IRL?

[–]Shadow_Lurker 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Spoilers: they are lying.

One thing people need to learn is that progressive culture most of the time can be better described as an insincerity culture. In their little twitter bubble they spend all the time talking about how open and accepting they are, but in reality they are that little middle class snob who thinks poor people are gross.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 16 insightful - 8 fun16 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Hello comrades, it's time to eat the rich and destroy classism!!!!1 Ewww, a poor person? I bet they don't even buy only organic vegan food. Not to mention that the poors are more likely to be conservative 🤢 so they don't really count as people until they pay 50k a year to go to liberal politics indoctrination center college.

[–]insta 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but in reality they are that little middle class snob who thinks poor people are gross.

I wouldn't even say poor. I'm such these people actually do have decent sympathy for some like singlemother struggling with jobs or some random homelessman. These people are disgusted by working class people. If you're a blue collar guy, if you install drywall for a living, these people fucking hate you.

[–]LasagnaRossa 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Saying bisexuality is transphobic is transphobic

Because its entailing that trans men are not men and trans women are not women

Well, they are not real men and women afterall...

Try to tell straight men and women that their dating pool includes trans women and men, and you'll see them riot.

Everyone but you see that the king is naked.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Saying bisexuality is transphobic is transphobic

Because its entailing that trans men are not men and trans women are not women

I really see no connection here. Transmen and transwomen are still female and male. Are they putting some additional meaning in words and phrases? Because how they said it - makes no sense.

[–]LasagnaRossa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not all bisexuals agree that their sexuality includes trans people, even though those are technically still men and women.

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sub consists mostly of "bisexual" people in straight relationships who love to police and shame actual gay people on their preferences and actions, so posts like this aren't surprising

[–]8bitgay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So my understanding is that bisexuality means two or more, and pan means all.

Ah, yes, all genders. According to them it's impossible to determine how many genders there are out there, according to them people can just come with new genders as they want, but somehow they magically know they'll be attracted to all genders out there.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These fuckwits.

Bi means two. A bisexual person is attracted to two sexes--males and females. Not some hybrid gender-dysphoric third.

That's what the fucking word means. It's what it implies. It is what it fundamentally is.

C'mon then--what's the word for someone who is exclusively attracted to males and females? Let's have it if that word isn't 'bisexual'.

Figured it out yet? Stop conflating bisexuality with your identity politics bullshit.

Attraction to trans people is not bisexuality any more than being attracted to trans people is homosexuality.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, maybe in the sense that bisexuality is "inclusive" of all hair/eye colors? Or favorite movies? Or nationalities? Or birth orders? (whether someone's an only child, the eldest/middle/youngest, etc.)

Which is to say... these things are irrelevant to bisexuality. It's based on SEX (biological: male and female), after all, not anything else-- "gender" included.

Why oh why can't these wokesters get that simple fact through their thick skulls???

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They never shut up about how sex and gender are two different things and then redefine everything to be about gender anyway.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No sexual orientation was “inclusive” of “gender identity” because it’s a recent concept with no evidentiary basis.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So I have a divided opinion on bisexuality vs pansexuality after talking to someone on thisnsub that brought up a very interesting point.

Originally, I saw bisexuality as liking BIOLOGICAL men and women, and that "pansexuality" liked the addition of "non-binary" and trans(I guess seen as a "third" sex due to...mixed...sex characteristics, aka hormones and plastic surgery).

But then someone mentioned that really trans is just a preference. They're still BIOLOGICALLY a man or woman, transitioning doesn't change that.

That'd be like if making a new sexuality for someone preferring red heads or...crossdressers...lol.

Idk, what are your guy's thoughts? Is the term "pansexual(ity)" useful or hurtful for bisexuals?