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[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 32 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Because the agenda pushers have been trying to manipulate us into forgetting biological sex. In the beginning, things were simple and everyone agreed with your statement on the matter. Then everything changed when the nonbinary nation attacked.

First, they wanted to create a distinction between sex and gender. They claimed to acknowledge biological sex and its unchanging nature while merely expanding gender to mean a different thing that could have more meanings and categories.

Now, however, that they have gotten enough supporters of the several gender nonsense, they are backpedalling and trying to merge sex and gender back into one thing. This would mean that sex would take on the new definition assigned to gender and true biological sex would be erased from public memory.

Their goal is to eliminate fact, so first they prepared their fantasy in front of us and are now showing signs of forcing it on us and applying it outside the bounds they said they would follow. This happens quite a bit in politics and was a strategy used by Adolf Hitler. He would say that he only wanted to take over a small area, and the Allies would let him. Several small areas later, Germany had amassed a large area and was now a force that would not be easily toppled. This is what the TQIA++ has been doing, slowly moving the goalpost forward until now they are deep within our territory, and now will not as easily be defeated as if the gay and lesbian community had simply exiled them in the first place

[–]8bitgay 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I think that an unfortunate fact is that they use arguments that are reasonable at first. I mean, sex shouldn't dictate how you live your life. Just because you're born male it doesn't mean you should marry a woman or have to follow your society's stereotypes of how men should be like.

This might seem obvious to us, but to a lot of conservative people it isn't. I bet many of us here have heard stuff like "you are a man, so you have to [stereotype]", "you are a man, so you can't [stereotype]".

What they do though is extrapolate this point. It starts from "your sex shouldn't dictate your entire life" and becomes "your sex is completely irrelevant in all situations". So it can be hard to disagree with their points without it seeming like you agree with the conservative people who follow arbitrary sex-related stereotypes.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would frame it differently.

It is like in advertisements - with big letters there is big slogan or idea (like BUY STUFF FOR ONLY 1$!), then there is star mark * and after it with small font there is additional info (like "but only 5 items from list").

They are saying "You don't need to be manly stereotype if you was born as a man!" and then with small font "BUT you need to physically change your body or you looks to fit stereotype you want to live as, or create new branch of stereotypes to follow".

So it is not changing the society and not making life of GNC people easier, it is "if you GNC man, then become a woman!". Or something like "To solve homophobia - if you lesbian woman and like women, then become a straight man!". Which makes non-binaries, gender/queer and trans ideologies - inherently GNC-hating and homophobic.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

conservative people

At this point, with the amount of damage/bullshit both GC and TRA have done, I rather have conservatives telling me I need to be feminine.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

I need to be feminine.

I read that "I need to be feline" :D

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your cat urges are showing. 😆

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, that would be fine too.

[–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...catgender?

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Meow!

[–]8bitgay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I dunno, frankly I find both quite bad. The difference is that I can talk about conservative homophobes on most "LGBT spaces" while talking about homophobia from the other side is a taboo.

If anything, one of the TQ+ issues is that they "forget" how much LGB are targeted by conservative homophobes, so that they can claim TQ+ is more oppressed.

[–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, getting nostalgic for "old school" homophobia isn't productive. They're just as bad, they're just less annoying because they aren't infiltrating us

[–]8bitgay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And because we're adults, I might add. It's easier to ignore conservative homophobia being an adult since I can often avoid being in conservative spaces or dealing with conservative people.

Still, I'm very much aware of this depending on which place of the city I'm walking. Some neighborhoods are far from gay friendly.

These two "sides" of homophobia help each other.

[–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These two "sides" of homophobia help each other.

Exactly lol with all these freaks and narcissists being the face of the community now conservatives probably feel pretty vindicated in hating the rest of us