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[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 77 insightful - 1 fun77 insightful - 0 fun78 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You know what? I don't even have anything snarky for this. This is just fucking disgusting. I cannot fucking believe that the "community" that is supposed to advocate for homosexuals is encouraging conversion therapy under the guise of being progressive and "open minded."

[–]MadLass 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ya I dont either the comments made me nauseous.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've seen many things that are shocking or gory, but jfc the gross, coercive, gaslighting bullshit I see coming out of the mouths of these people is what actually turns my stomach.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And the way they phrase it. Pretending to be little harmless lambs, all helpful and "educating" people. Oh dear.... The way they write is SO manipulative, it makes my stomach turn. Like, I get aversion from this. My ex was abusive and gaslighting af - and these people talk just like that. I react instinctively to them.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And the way they will always paint themselves as victims! Oh, how they're soooo persecuted by literally everyone and everything! As someone who has also had a run-in with a manipulative person, that will always set off alarm bells in my head. Spend long enough with these types of people and you'll learn that the maltreatment they claim to face is just people having agency and not catering to their every whim. Never had to deal with a manipulator as a partner, though, I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks. You know what? I try and see one positive thing about that: Thanks to her (him? them? She was a her when I met her and got with her, later claimed different IDs, FtM etc) I know now what abuse looks like, and it was what made me distance myself from the toxic LGBT community I was part of. It's protection after all, that my gut reacts to this stuff subconsciously already.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is true, once you see this stuff you will be able to recognize the warning signs before the person gets to your head. You've now got that protection forever for whenever someone tries to pull that kinda bullshit on you.

[–]JizeraStraigth ♂ 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the whole post is not only a staged propagandist farce the OP's partner can't be a transsexual suffering from a real deep dysphoria, because he wants to include his male genitalia into sexual activity with his sexual partner, and also OP is a little bit "anomalous" homosexual obviously attracted to persons of opposite sex. So even if it is not intentional brainwashing of other people, it is a real-life absurd commedy caused by the social constructivism "philosophy".

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGP coomers vastly outnumber traditional transsexuals. I think if they weren't so blatant about their intentions, most of us never would have "peaked" in the first place. Transsexuals at least elicit some sense of sympathy in most of us. Who wouldn't feel a little bit sorry for the poor bastard who hates his body so much that he had his dick surgically removed? As for OP, assuming the post wasn't just written to be AGP erotic fiction, the redefining of the word "homosexual" allows people like the OP to identify into homosexuality without actually meeting the criteria. This ironically reinforces the notion that homosexuals can be attracted to the opposite sex, causing more people who do not fit the description to self identify as such. The effects of queer theory word games are on full display.

[–]peaked2020 60 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 0 fun61 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When did it become normal for people to have sex with people whose bodies they cannot even stand to look at, are afraid of... why would anyone encourage this, trans or not? To be told to just “not touch it” and continue having relations with the person? The consistent language in the post as well, framing the mere thought of someone who will not accept a penis as exclusionary and hateful.... It’s not rape, but... it’s somewhere in that area of a sort of non-consent.

I guess I should count my luck for sleeping with people who I actually enjoyed touching... I can’t imagine asking someone to have sex with me and simply “not look at” my vagina. This has nothing to do with being trans. This behavior would be filthy from anyone.

[–]marmorsymphata 6 insightful - 11 fun6 insightful - 10 fun7 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Lie back and think of Stonewall

[–]Gearbeta 51 insightful - 2 fun51 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I really REALLY hope that post is fake and its a trans woman trying to give other trans women hope but if not, ugh. This is so disgusting. She's willing to do this and this trans woman is likely not going to give even slightly as much of a shit about her as she does about them. And nothing's going to change and the only thing that will be achieved is crap ass sex that she's going to be disgusted by every time and a partner who gives no fucks about it.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 54 insightful - 9 fun54 insightful - 8 fun55 insightful - 9 fun -  (9 children)

It does tick a lot of boxes for AGP fap-bait. "Guys, my totally hot trans gf has a huuuuuuge dick! I'm kinda nervous because I'm a lesbian who's never tried a dick before, I hope it doesn't hurt! (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄ I don't want to have this sex, but I'll reluctantly let her fuck me anyway!!!" Unfortunately, the comments are still written with complete sincerity.

[–]hellonumpty 43 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 0 fun44 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's literally every homophobic man's dream - converting the 'lesbian' and in that context it makes the comments even more revolting.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

At least most straight guys with a lesbian fetish want lesbians to want them. These guys get off on the thought of coercing women who don't want to touch them into having sex with them. And what woman could be less willing to have sex with them than a woman who doesn't want dicks at all? Regular guys with a lesbian fetish are annoying, these guys might actually be dangerous.

[–]MisandryFTW 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm going to disagree with this. The vast vast majority of men I've encountered seem much more interested in my lack of interest and unwillingness than in converting me to penis.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not only that but also the perversion of everything lesbian sexuality consists of. Ridiculing our bodies by appropriating them, and our terms for them. I saw a tweet recently or something where two MtFs were discussing top/bottom roles. And they were giving advice to lesbians that IF they wanted to top, they could get straps, but trans lesbians had a better, natural built-in strap (calling it "home-grown strap"). I wanted to scream. Appropriating it is so vile and manipulative but it's just inside the sexuality a lesbian might already be familiar with - so the perversion of it comes off as a trojan horse. It IS dangerous. So many young lesbians don't see through this because they grew up with this distorted ideas being spoon-fed to them.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ugh, disgusting. I hate the manipulative word games queer theory types love to play. It literally is a fucking cult. They take young, naive LGBs and love bomb them with messages of LGBTQ positivity. This also tells them that other LGBTQ people are just like them, and are to be trusted. They paint an image of the outside world being unwelcoming, convincing them that homophobia is lurking around every corner outside of "queer" spaces. The cult then isolates them by encouraging them to drop any friends or family who slightly disagree with anything they say. They heavily discourage reading opposing opinions. There will be guilt tripping involved here, "This is literally killing us! We just want to be free to be ourselves! You need to be a better ally!" And then they will wear down cult members personal boundaries. If anyone questions it, they will be fed pseudo-religious jargon about genders with another healthy dose of guilt tripping. The fact that more people don't see this for what it is blows my mind. Or maybe I just need to take off my tinfoil hat.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, don't take it off. You are spot on. It begins as soon as kinder-garden and school, that's why they push those "I'm Jazz" books and the like. The Queer Kids Stuff "lessons" on YouTube. It's all part of painting a nice happy rainbow. (Nowadays, I've stopped using the Pride flag. If you go on Twitter, 95% with Pride flags are trans or TRA supporters. They literally took our pride...)

Let's call it what it is: It's grooming. It's abuse. Telling kid that their horrible, horrible parents are so transphobic, or close-minded and that all the others are TERFs and bigots - but come here, we will love you. You're valid uwu... We love you, now please educate yourself. We want to support everyone in our community; why don't you re-examine your preferences?

It's insidious and I really don't get why lawmakers and adults and people in general aren't seeing this.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They gotta get em young, children are they easiest to indoctrinate. And I don't doubt that there are pedo motives involved, too. Did you see that one post on here showing an "educational" booklet given to schoolchildren that defined family as "a group of people who support you?" It is absolutely grooming and it is beyond horrifying to me that same sex attraction is lumped together with this.

Found it: https://m.imgur.com/a/VXAiwmv

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah it sounds like a LARP to me, it's the only post made on that account

"I really hope that, if terfs find this post, they read the myriad comments from trans women, many of whom say they have a penis, saying over and over again that they think my aversion is valid and real and they wouldn't dare overstep it."

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They think it's sooo valid that they're trying to talk her into sex with someone whose genitals she is repulsed by and giving her advice on how she can overcome her dick aversion. At this point I don't even care that the OP is a larp, the comments are still so disconnected from reality. Any normal person would say something along the lines of "Wow, maybe it's not a good idea to meet up with someone for sex if you're repulsed by their genitals" instead of the usual fare of "Well maybe you can just make out while he jacks off his peen uwu." "Maybe you can start out just touching it through his underwear uwu." "Well maybe if you don't like dicks, you could still touch his asshole? uwu" "Maybe if you try it you'll like it uwu" Coomers are such fucking degenerates that upon hearing that someone doesn't want sex with them, their first thought is what sort of unconventional sex they could propose to circumvent those boundaries. Very female behavior.

[–]peaked2020 46 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 0 fun47 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

...How dare they spread that this coercion is just in the minds of “TERFs” and not real. Almost all of these comments are encouraging her to have sex with this person despite being repulsed by their body... Many of the comments also reference their relationships where their partner was repulsed by them, afraid of their penis, totally uninterested... and they persisted until the woman relented, calling her a bigot until the day.

It’s disgusting... I’m afraid for younger lesbians.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 38 insightful - 4 fun38 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Yet every day it’s “this never happens.” I saw yesterday an AGP asking for statistics and studies showing this happens. But he also said it’s not possible for me to have a sexual orientation that does not include natal males because they can transition and be indistinguishable. What an AGP fantasy.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You know they have lost something mentally if they think any of them can possibly be indistinguishable from women. That, or their eyes and sense of smell.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I imagine they are incels sitting home alone behind their computers never having experienced a female body and genitalia IRL and also that they get off on the idea of convincing otherwise unwilling female partners to have sex with them.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, they’re incels who found a loop hole if they’re getting laid at all. I’m pretty sure that one post in the last couple weeks about the woman dating 3 transwomen in a poly relationship was also fantasy posts again. It reads very similar to their fetishes, as do a lot of their posts about “terfs” harming them (emotionally).

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or sexually inexperienced kids.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s sadly the best case scenario because there’s a chance they might grow out of whatever it is they’re going through.

[–]hellonumpty 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think one of the worst aspects of this for me is those same people who say that "this never happens" and call TERFs "hysterical" and accuse them of making this up, are usually the same people who post pro MeToo shit. And believewomen shit. And it is shit because it's not genuine at all. All for the woke points. That leads me to believe that some of the women who've experienced coercion and/or assault from these TRAs might feel that these are the people they can go to about this only to be accused of being hysterical and making up lies. Then probably called a TERF. I can't imagine how devastating that would be.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Abuse tactics 101 I'm afraid.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 46 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 0 fun47 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is the creepiest, rapiest shit I've read on here. u/wolverine9 is a predator who needs to be on every watch list. This comment from him has 100 fucking upvotes so far:

I disagree.

As someone who (briefly) dated a gold star who was penis averse, I really despise this narrative that she should preemptively lean into that preference because I think it's ostracizing to trans people. OP seems open to trying to make this work, and I know plenty of transbians who have never removed their underwear during sex with cis women because of this situation (for years in one case).

OP, you are open to being intimate with this person. That means you are open to being vulnerable, and it means you are open to having a vulnerable conversation about the realities of your interaction while it's happening. Your feelings within the bounds of sex are 100% valid, and how that comes up during sex is important for you to communicate.

As mentioned by a number of others here, how she wants to participate in sex is equally important - ask her if her genitalia are a part of how she would get off, and how she wants to be touched. You may feel uncomfortable at first, but because you seem open to it, it's possible that your chemical attraction will be willing to operate in more exploratory ways than one who categorically deny trans women the potential of interaction based off of genitalia.

I think the 'genital preference' narrative is ostracizing and not inclusive enough. If two people are attracted to one another on a chemical level, you can't create categorical denial [of interaction with penis] until those two people have communicated that between themselves. It is not a subject of public discussion.

Again from the same commenter. Love how he also threw in that lesbians cannot refuse to fuck people because they adhere to a homophobic and misogynistic religion:

Right, but I'm saying that I the difference is linguistic. 'Genital preference' shouldn't be a thing, because it's willful. Aversion, I get. Aversion doesn't mean you categorically deny the situation, it means you have a certain willingness to be proven wrong about your biases.

Like you said, "people will have preferences (in terms of private parts and otherwise) that they would be willing to negotiate on if the circumstances call for it." I don't think it's fair to be willful in your preference and categorically deny people your attraction, because it really means you're denying that attraction to yourself in the first place. It's equally ostracizing to say you won't sleep with someone because they're white/muslim/disabled/have a loose vagina/are fat/etc. People shouldn't have those preferences, because it's close-minded to have them.

If the language of our time is to examine our biases and rise above them, so too do we need to examine the formation of the biases used to create an arc of inclusivity for trans women into womanhood [This is why we're against your language manipulation, you dipshit, because you do so to prescribe rapey bullshit]. If trans women with penises are women, then their penises are also women's penises. Anyone who isn't including those with penises in their prescriptive sexuality of an attraction to women is denying trans women the space to call themselves equally feminine. That's why I feel like this. Genital preference continues a segregation of feminine 'types'.

Let me be clear here, though. I don't think that this means OP (or any lesbian cis woman, for that matter) should forcibly include penetrative transwomen in their sexual pantheon. I mean that people like OP, asking this question, are taking a risk of experience that people who use the language of exclusion (s/a preference) are not willing to take because of a willful exclusion.

This post and responding comments would be disturbing even if OP were a straight girl. Also, what's with the male commenters reassuring her that PIV sex won't hurt the first time. How the fuck would they know? I can't read anymore of this, but this post needs to be blasted out to everyone. You have to see this to believe it.

[–]Constantine 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This comment was by far one of the most disturbing things I've read. I couldn't keep going after that or I would've had to burn me eyes out.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 32 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yea someone needs to screenshot this and send it to/tag Judith Butler. This is what happens when you carelessly try to deconstruct basic human sexuality, separate sexuality from the body, and colonize and redefine others’ sexual orientations just so that you can gain sexual access to them.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish someone could meet her, give her a binder full of receipts - of the death threats, rape threats, violent slurs, gaslighting into sex, convincing minors and/or threatening them again, telling people to off themselves for being "transphobic" etc ... I wonder if she'd be shocked, or if she'd try to bullshit the evidence away with empty phrases?

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is such bullshit. Homsexuals are same sex attracted and that attraction is to primary as well as secondary sex characteristics. This is straight up homosexual erasure.

[–]Lesbianese 43 insightful - 3 fun43 insightful - 2 fun44 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Wish there was a "horrifying" rating.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Homophobia nowadays is on insane levels.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It makes me wonder how many lesbians will get through their formative years without going through at least one sexually traumatic situation :(

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, and it will be done to them by "their own community who was there to protect them".

[–]Tikiri 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I hope and pray she doesn’t go through with it, but if she does the only thing I can hope is that it does not traumatize her to a debilitating degree. It makes me sick to my stomach that a young person trying to explore her sexuality has to do anything physical with these sick freaks.

I’m going to sound like an old religious fuddy duddy (I’m a genX agnostic-leaning person), but why can’t young people just hang out i.r.l. for a good long while (and in relatively safe, public places) with people to whom they feel an initial attraction and see whether they want to take it further, instead of just jumping into bed with someone they’ve not even seen i.r.l.?! Anyone can develop feelings of “attraction” to people online who turn out to be predators. I mean they have entire TV series about this on the ID channel! There’s something to be said for the “old-fashioned” practice of just hanging out as friends to see if it’ll go further.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I cannot believe that it's considered not only acceptable, but encouraged to meet up and have sex with people you are repulsed by just to be open minded. What kind of hellworld do we live in? OP is going to meet up with this person and learn that transgenders take photos at the most "passing" angles, and even those that pass in photos look undeniably male in person. Seeing people in the comments blatantly trying to coerce this young woman into sex acts she clearly doesn't want to do is genuinely making me nauseous. How can TRAs look at this shit and think "yeah, we're the good guys"?

[–]reluctant_commenter 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Dunno, but I've had people (my age, early 20s) tell me I'm a stick-the-mud for not using tinder, lol. I don't really get it either, it's very hard for me to be drawn to pictures and descriptions without actually having some context for the person, hearing them talk, etc. Guess I will just be single for a while, hahaha. I don't mind waiting longer, I am not in a rush.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

My tinder experience has gone like this:

  1. Match with some girl

  2. Forget whatever clever opener I thought of when I swiped right on her

  3. Commence awkward small talk that goes nowhere

  4. Repeat this several times a day until giving up

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

RIP haha, that sounds rough. I think it's a great idea in theory, but it requires a) initiative b) mutual interest in actually pursuing something.

I have heard people saying (and read survey stats suggesting) that many people on dating apps are actually not looking to date or even hookup, but rather as a way of getting validation for their pictures. It takes a degree of vulnerability to be actually in the game, and I'd imagine it feels kind of shitty to have that element in the mix.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure plenty of people, especially women, are there just to have others people tell them they're great lol But still for a lesbian, there is no better way

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, I got my last girlfriend without a dating app. I do have a lot of acquaintances who are LGB though, and I'm sure that's not an option for someone living rurally, for example.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not religious at all and I as well don't get the whole, "Jump into bed on the first meeting." In my 20's I tried it out and it was not for me in the slightest. I am romantically attached to people I sleep with and just bopping around fucking everyone who I find attractive doesn't work at all. That being said, my 30's have been quite lonely because I don't engage in this behavior. People naturally assume I have no interest in them if I am not making sexual comments right off the bat.

[–]Tikiri 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s really lame! I think it’s because we live in such a hyper sexualized age, and hookup culture is the norm (especially with the proliferation of dating apps). Oddly enough, I don’t think it’s a novel historical phenomenon - if you read about dating in the ‘Me’ decade of the ‘70s, it seems to have been quite similar, even among heterosexuals! What brought it all to a screeching halt was the AIDS era of the ‘80s, which is when I grew up. So, you may feel alone and frustrated, but honestly I don’t think you’re in a minority - I think there are more people who feel the way you do, regardless of sexual orientation. But I’m GenX and out of the whole dating scene. Also, I may be indulging in wishful thinking, but I feel that the explosion of AGP trans culture and individuals, where everyone is suddenly compelled/forced to include these people in their dating and sexual lives, might make more people question hookup culture in general.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is it mean that I hope she goes through it and sees the truth? I mean she says anything that goes against TRA narrative is Terfy so fuck her.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly some of the comments on that thread strike me entirely as (one even admitted) they had to be told FIRST something was off the table.

Ie if she changes her mind, it won’t likely matter to some of the users on there. I hope she changes her mind. I don’t even care if she isn’t a lesbian (I can’t imagine still being turned on by someone after seeing a picture of their dick), I just hope she can get away if she does.

[–]hellonumpty 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"There's no shortage of direct hate from cis no-penis types in lesbian dating circles but at least they're up front about it."

We all know the stupid things they consider hate but just thought I'd highlight this gem in particular.

edit: I also want to mention how they typically say, "just be nice about it" (not liking dicks) or "don't even mention it" but I would love to know how many of these instances of ''hate'' are from lesbians towards a trans woman who wouldn't take No for an answer. We know how many of those exist.

[–]materialrealityplz 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Men in general don't like 'no' for an answer. Transwomen are males and are no different.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From the creep u/drtmprss:

also from your post, it seems like some of the things that you cited in your post that you’re afraid of penises for are things that are kinda rare in my experience. but i understand that the idea of penises can be scary and you do not wish to interact with them :)

pregnancy is very unlikely as long as she wears a condom properly (ie it fits well and such) if you’re on birth control and she wears a condom, the chance of pregnancy is practically 0

again if she wears a condom it will be extremely unlikely that either of you will get an std. but if you’re worried about mouth transmission, then you don’t have to give her oral, as long as you make it clear that you don’t want to before hand

on the what if it hurts, it shouldn’t as long as you’re aroused and have had plenty of foreplay, unless you can’t use a dildo because it hurts, then that’s understandable.

i hope i helped clear somethings up, and if it wasn’t helpful or i got something wrong please someone let me know i do not wish to live in ignorance :)

So here this creep is saying that if someone doesn't say ahead of time that that don't want to do a sex act, they can not make that decision in the moment or after the act has begun, even though it's known that they have a natural aversion to the act and are trying to talk themselves into it. And again, this person doesn't have a vagina and is in no place to tell a woman that a penis in her vagina will not hurt the first time. Everything about this is one big lie and gaslight.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Pre-emptive fuck off to any lurking terfs"

I mean really? She'd rather force herself to choke on cock than respect herself or even listen to any other opinions? Well then have at it honey. Imo probably fake anyway, but these days who knows.

[–]peaked2020 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

“Right, but I'm saying that I the difference is linguistic. 'Genital preference' shouldn't be a thing, because it's willful. Aversion, I get. Aversion doesn't mean you categorically deny the situation, it means you have a certain willingness to be proven wrong about your biases.“

In other words... everyone should be open to penises... is this person a psychopath?

[–]Tikiri 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Short answer: yes.

It’s such obvious narcissistic personality disorder that it follows he could well be a psychopath.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I had to give the TRA movement a diagnosis, I'd go looking in the Cluster B PD handbooks.

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are the people on the “right” side of history?

[–]shveya 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"I think I'm mostly worried because she does seem to be comfortable enough with her equipment to want to use it." " I happen to know hers is large (she sent pictures)"

Yeah, this sounds like AGP wanking material to me. If there were an autogynophile version of Penthouse, the letters would start off like this.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

True, the wording is skeptical and theres a lot of reddit posts that are essentially fanfiction these days.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

If you're a lesbian trying to have a relationship with someone with a dick, you're not a lesbian.

But good luck to you navigating your way through your own delusional batshittery.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know the person attached to it is a woman.

No

[–]LasagnaRossa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Keep telling yourself that, lol

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I will? Are you a TRA by any chance?

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Think Lasagna meant the TRA should keep telling themselves that ^

[–]RedditHatesLesbiansHomosexual Not Queer 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This makes me feel sick. That is a MAN. All this talk about him possibly not wanting to use "his equipment" so she should be fine with it... 🤮

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And in the comments I think she clarified that he does seem to want to use it. 🤢

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The buffalo bill types that try to act all motherly to these girls really creep me out. All the, "Don't worry sweetheart, you can unlearn your bigotry."

This is amazingly wholesome and it makes me super glad that there are people out there who are supportive like this.

Women can never give enough to men, ever.

[–]GConly 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So... If you look at the OPs other comments and posts, There's no way this is a woman.

https://np.reddit.com/user/sIutaIt

Porn.. I've never seen a female's account that showed the least interest in it. And I'm a woman that watches porn. Plus the name...

This is a TW writing out a fantasy

[–]blackrainbow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

slutalt

Hope it's a troll

[–]MyLongestJourney 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Couldn't finish reading the thread,overtaken by disgust as I was. I will just have to state that there is no way in hell the person asking for advice is homosexual and I seriously doubt is of the female persuasion. Also may all the "transwomen" who want to force their dicks on lesbians,get cancer on the aforementioned appendages.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the poster is probably a TW posing as a lesbian but I think the responses are real and that they’re also all jerking off to this fantasy prospect.

[–]a_blue_bird 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am exactly the penis averse cis lesbian of their dream argument and the conversation here has gone completely against what they say it does. There's been some gentle reminders about the language I used but that's it. Everybody in here seems to recognise my position. No witch hunts. No penises have been foisted upon me. Nobody has demanded I service them. Terfs are not seeing the overwhelming majority of trans people describing their lives and experiences. I hope they see it some day.

What even is that thread? She's so obsessed with politics, TERFs and validating MTFs in a thread that supposedly is ''just a random gal asking for personal advice'' that it looks like the ''slutalt'' was specifically created to spread more propaganda.

Also, what the hell is ''the penis averse cis lesbian of their dream''? Does she actually think that it is so extremely rare for a lesbian to dislike male anatomy that we will be falling head over heels upon finding this one very special lesbian who does not like dick? And no honey, nobody will outright force you to do anything, especially not publicly. You will be lead into it by very gentle gaslighting, making you feel like a very special, caring woman who can see past ''evil male patriarchy'' created ideas by sucking dicks. Men are not idiots and know how to talk to different types of women.

Also, I don't care any longer about this type of a woman who rolls herself out like a carpet for others to walk over (or to validate them, or to make them feel good about themselves, or to make herself look better than others and so on, and so on).

[–]luckystar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I'm mostly worried because she does seem to be comfortable enough with her equipment to want to use it. I absolutely don't want to make her feel uncomfortable, or like less of a woman, because of my preferences. Wow, just... wow.

My heart hurts reading threads like these. How can these people read this and not feel disgusted with themselves? Just awful conversion therapy rhetoric. I hate how homophobic this generation is.

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