Right. It just seems like in public spaces most gay men support this nonsense. It's funny though because I had this lesbian coworker who was filling in as a sub for a day and we immediately clicked and we eventually got to talking about dating and I was admittedly very hesitant to talk about it because I didn't know if she was a TRA but to my pleasant surprise, she brought up how she isn't attracted to trans identified men calling themselves "Transwomen" and when I asked her if she considered them women, she just looked at me and said "No I really don't". I can't describe the huge relief I had when she said this haha.