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[–]Rosefield 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Another brigade

[–]rockhard288 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs are purposely piling a not moderated agb to continue the justification of its inevitable ban

[–]JulienMayfair 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think the right way to phrase it is that there are two sexes. Genders are socially constructed categories with a basis in biological sex, and some cultures (not many) have had more than two genders. Those cultures were not gender utopias like their romantic fans would like to think, but they did exist. Third genders were often a place to put men who did not conform to rigid male sex roles in cultures with a high priority on categorization.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah and most of the reason that the third gender exists in a place like India is their extremely rigid caste system which extends to gender castes. It's men who aren't masculine enough and there's no considerations of women not feminine enough.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gender is bullshit anyway. I can understand replacing the word sex with the word gender on the basis that sex is used to describe a private behaviour. But nowadays, gender and sex mean two different things.

[–]hyunnahh 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it used to be interchangeable, but all of a sudden the meaning "gender" changed completely?? I still don't understand how this happened :/

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs and feminism got into the colleges. That's when I honestly started seeing the "there's a difference!" (Ex: women and gender, sexuality studies) Pop up alongside the internet.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yesh. Used to be for grammar but also used for sex differences in the past. "Gender" (for sex) went out of fashion, then got repopularized to mean whatever the hell it means for some groups minus the majority who are still thankfully (at least) using it to mean sex.

[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah... No, I'm gonna have to disagree with you, mate. I'm not into using John Money terms.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Its wankery seems to be winning the polls so, works for me.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Still only just about a third. If it was at least half the votes, I would not have posted this except to rave.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

:D

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are a lot of TRA lurkers there.

I would vote for the last option.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’ve noticed that too.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish we could just drop the whole gender crap altogether. There are two sexes, male and female. A trans man is a female who presents as a male. And a trans woman is a male who presents as a female. It really is that fucking simple.

[–]luckystar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, beautiful. Somebody actually described the "female gender" on the thread linked in the comments.

It is a pretty broad term. But as a sorta-flux sorta-girl, I think I might be equipped to explain some of the terms you named? (flux is a kind of fluid, where the intensity at which you feel [gender] fluctuates)

To explain demigender identities, first we have to know what a gender even is. Imma take female for example, bc it's easier for me. There's certain aspects we associate with womanhood, like cooking, wearing dresses, being caring, longer hair, being better at precise tasks, being more aware of social situations, better grooming. These "stereotypical attributes" are by no means universal, but they are kind of associative? If you knew someone knitted, had 17 cats and had an hourglass figure, it would be a subversion of expectations for this person to be male.

For the sake of this explanation and my very tired brain, let's assume the list I named is exhaustive, rather than reductive. Now, lets say, that someone might be better at precise tasks and has better grooming, but has no ear for social situations and intensely dislikes cooking. Some might say this person is gender non-conforming, but maybe that... doesn't feel like it covers it for the person. Maybe they have some aspects of social dysphoria or even physical. In any case "GNC woman" doesn't feel like it properly conveys the distance between them and "womanhood".

Now, a genderfluid person might start the day off being perfectly fine in their presentation. Pronouns she/her, pretty skirt, nice makeup, cute shoes. But halfway through the day smth changes. Pronouns grate, shoes look wrong, the skirt which looked so pretty before, now feels like they're crossdressing. And it's impossible to explain this change with anything other than "the gender I experience changed."

There you have it. It's literally clothing styles and, apparently, knitting and cats.

There's a reason why these people avoid answering the question "What is a gender?" or "What does it mean to be a woman if not based on biological sex?". Because the answer is stuff like this. They think wearing clothes is a personality, and they think in terms of rigid gender stereotypes. They're the most sexist of all but they think they're being woque. It's gross.