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[–]julesburm1891[S] 52 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 0 fun53 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hey, so these are the glossary definitions in a new book about gay rights for young people. 1. Note how gay and lesbian are defined by attraction to gender. 2. The term homosexual is curiously absent, but heterosexual makes the cut. 3. Homophobia makes gay people “uncomfortable,” but transphobia is linked to violence.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 27 insightful - 13 fun27 insightful - 12 fun28 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

That's because misgendering is LITERAL VIOLENCE.

[–]8bitgay 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

TQ+: you can't use the word homosexual, but it's because we worry about you! The homo- prefix is overly scientific, the -sexual part oversexualizes you, and the word structure is related to viewing it as a disease!

Also TQ+: so let's talk about bisexuals, pansexuals and heterosexuals. Also let's use scientific prefixes cis- and trans-.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Still TQ+: homosexual is too clinical and scientific sounding. Let’s use the prefixes trans and cis which are pretty much only used for organic chemistry.

[–]motss-pb 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, their definition of homophobia doesn't include the word gay. It's about straight people making "queer" people feel unsafe. And what is queer? Everyone! Asexuals, graysexuals, nonbinaries, demiboys, genderfluids, etc.

  1. Homophobia makes gay people “uncomfortable,” but transphobia is linked to violence.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is exactly why I always say I'm homosexual now. At least homosexual is clear - attraction to the same sex.

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing is clear to them. I have already seen trans people defining "homosexuality" as "attraction to the same gender" lol.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The intersex one is, unsurprisingly, completely medically inaccurate and offensive. Most of us ARE male or female, it's insulting AND scientifically wrong to say that, for example, a male with XXY syndrome is not male. And we are NOT "part of the LGBTQ+ community." Intersex people have repeatedly been asked to NOT be included yet trans activists keep doing this shit against our wishes.

This is disturbing because intersex is not an "identity" and it's not trivial language changing. if you teach your kids this shit and they meet someone with an intersex disorder then they will proceed to see them as an "other" and be more likely to discriminate. As well as the fact that the chance a kid with an intersex disorder reads this they're going to feel shit about themselves because the book is telling them they're basically an alien he-she that doesn't belong with men and women. It's gross.

[–]julesburm1891[S] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Personally, I’m kind of impressed that the author managed to incorrectly define or obfuscate the meaning for almost every single term.

I absolutely agree with you though. The way this is phrased implies intersex people aren’t men and women. It’s degrading and offensive. Furthermore, it’s clear to anyone actually listening that including people with legitimate medical conditions is only to use them as a shield for trans people. Again, degrading and offensive.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You know intersex condition is used by TRA as example that there are more than two genders. That's why they say you're not male.

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    [–][deleted] 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    The fact that they redefine family really irks me. Sure as an adult you can choose whether or not your family is in your life, but for kids that's just way too confusing and they're definitely not in position to be choosing who their 'family' is.

    [–]julesburm1891[S] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Agreed. I also don’t like this because teenagers are impressionable. It’s not hard to imagine a teen who’s mad that their parents won’t put them on puberty blockers or laughs at their claims of being a demisexual star gender enby. And it’s really not hard to see a teen like that using this to decide their parents don’t love them and aren’t really family.

    Idk, I can’t know the author’s intentions, but this feels irresponsible at best.

    [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Agreed. This does nothing to support kids in working through this stuff with their families. It feeds into the rhetoric you see in certain communities that if your family is not 100% on board with this crap that they need to be cut out completely. Which is a shame, because family are often the only people who genuinely give a crap about the kid as a person an not as an NB whatever. And then the kid just feels more isolated and that drives them further into the community...

    [–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It's a cult.

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It IS a cult, but also something weirder. At least with traditional cults, after they alienated you away from your family, they had a physical place for you to stay, they gave you food and put you to work so that you can be profitable for them. With this cult, if you don't have friends to run away to, or a means to support yourself (as a teen/young adult) you're going to be homeless. And the TQ cult wont swoop in to rescue you and take you someplace warm and safe and lovebomb and brainwash you. You'll just be outside and alone. I don't get it.

    [–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 16 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

    We'll if they're male they could always go to a homeless women's shelter.

    [–]CJLez 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It could also lead to them being groomed online to run away and be part of their 'real family' who 'loves' them.

    [–]julesburm1891[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    You’re back! I was actually thinking about you and StrictlyDykely yesterday and wondering where you were.

    [–]CJLez 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hi! I've been moving flat so I've been too drained to saiddit.

    [–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Alright, I'm gonna put on my tinfoil hat and note that it's also the kind of tactics pedos use to groom kids. "Oh, your parents don't support your gender identity? It's okay, I can be your family now haha." And let's face it, the Queer™️ community is rife with pedos. We've already seen the abundance of pedos trying to "crack the egg" of vulnerable and confused teenagers to groom them. I wouldn't be surprised if their influence indirectly had some effect on educational material like in the OP.

    [–]fuck_reddit 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is why I hate the word "queer", because since the inception of "queer theory", pedos have attempted to use their "queer" identity to force their way in. It's horrible and I won't stand for it.

    [–]les4leshomonormative 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I cannot stand this ridiculous idea that it's an extremely good thing to encourage young people to disavow or lie to their biological parents, it happens with trans organizations too and that's why you see gender clinics meeting children without telling their families first. I understand the impulse to tell children that they aren't defined by what their potentially abusive parents think of them but trans people will call anything less than full acceptance "abuse" and a lot of parents of gender-confused children really do have their children's best interests at heart when they want to put off things like surgery and hormone treatment.

    As opposed to the homophobic parents of "trans" toddlers that are subjecting their gnc children to a lifetime of medical abuse and oppression lmao. Some of the fundamentalist Christians will admit outright to spanking their kids for not filling sex stereotypes

    [–]BiHorror 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    God, I fucking hate everything about this. From the attraction to the "gender" reinventing definitions bullshit.

    [–]PriestTheyCalledHimBisexual 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    What does it say for bisexual?

    [–]julesburm1891[S] 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

    https://imgur.com/a/G61uu2N

    Y’all get screwed too.

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 20 insightful - 9 fun20 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

    This makes it sound like we are attracted to single individual human beings who possess more than one gender in one body.

    I love that they completely fucked the literal definition too:

    bi = more than one | sexual = gender

    next thing you'll tell me Cornflakes are:

    corn = pulverized oats | flakes = tiny doughnut shapes

    I mean they all fall under the Cereal Umbrella so...

    [–]ThiccDropkickGay 23 insightful - 9 fun23 insightful - 8 fun24 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

    I saw this comment on r/LGBT ages ago saying how it was funny that bi means two in every context except sexuality. They were so close to being self aware but not quite

    [–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 9 insightful - 12 fun9 insightful - 11 fun10 insightful - 12 fun -  (1 child)

    Everytime I see your username, my brain autocorrects it to ThiccDick. It just goes ThiccDropkick I don't know why, LOL

    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Thought it was just me! This username is like a subliminal ad... or maybe an inkblot test?

    PAGING DR. FREUD! :)

    [–]LasagnaRossa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    next thing you'll tell me Cornflakes are:

    corn = pulverized oats | flakes = tiny doughnut shapes

    DiDnT yOu KnOw ThAt wOrDs cHaNge?

    [–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Coming out: becoming revolutionary

    Well geez if I do just so happen to be a straight cis kid you better believe I'm gonna come up with some way to come out as queer if it would make me revolutionary.

    [–]les4leshomonormative 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    This is garbage! the font for "Glossary" is nice though

    edit: "limited... sexual attraction" literally everybody is asexual now, unless they have a raging boner for everything they see

    [–]ekitten 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Coming out: telling someone that you are queer" !!!!

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They perfected the art of getting things wrong. Congrats! Now words mean nothing and no one can communicate what they're into and not into so as to maximize confusion and hurt feelings amongst the world's supposedly most vulnerable people and the privileged oppressor class within the LGBWTF community.

    [–]oyasuminasai50 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I can jive with their definition of gender. And I can jive with their definition of gay IF you go by the conventional definition of gender as a synonym for sex. But their definition of “gay” and “gender” are wholly incompatible.

    Gay people are attracted to the same gender. OK. Fine if you consider gender and sex the same. But going by their own definition of gender, they’re saying gay is attraction to... the way someone thinks about themselves? So if I’m a gay man, and someone - let’s say Charlize Theron - comes out as a trans man tomorrow, without doing anything different with her body or physical appearance, am I supposed to be any more attracted to her?

    If we say being gay is attraction to what someone is “supposed to look like,” are we saying that being gay is attraction to culturally-defined norms? Because that’s what you’re saying when you say what someone is “supposed to look like.” So if Charlie Theron gives herself a buzz cut and throws on a flannel shirt, NOW I should be attracted to her?

    As soon as we start to believe that being gay is based on culturally-defined norms of gender, then it’s impossible to be born gay. You can’t be innately attracted to something socially constructed. It’s ipso facto a logical inconsistency.

    [–]LasagnaRossa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Even in a kids dictionary they weren't able to explain this ethereal thing called gender. They've described good old personality and social norms.

    Bunch of bullishit.

    [–]ekitten 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Their definition of gender is bullshit, unsurprisingly. And of course the definition of sexism refers to men and women which are supposed to be genders not sexes.