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[–]BEB 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (17 children)

I didn't vote for Obama - I am not even a Democrat - and have huge problems with what he did in Libya, Yemen, and other things, but I have actually seen Obama speak in person and I've interacted with Trump twice.

There is no comparison - Obama is obviously brilliant and he truly seemed to care about Americans.

Trump is a fucking buffoon. If I saw Trump walking down the street I would cross the street and cross myself, even without being Catholic. Maybe get some garlic and a stake.

Obama had to fight to get the ACA/Obama Care passed against some of the most powerful lobbies in the US, and had to compromise - as you said yourself, a president can't do everything.

When I was canvassing for the Democrats in 2018 (because I hate the current Republican party just that much) many of the people I spoke with actually loved Obama Care without knowing that their new health plan had been provided by the Hated Barack Hussein.

And I've seen that borne out in polls - that dumbo Republican Americans hated "Obamacare" but loved Obamacare, which they were too stupid to know were the same thing.

And seriously, we're on an anonymous message board, you have no idea what experiences other posters have so please refrain from attacking them personally.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

There is no comparison - Obama is obviously brilliant and he truly seemed to care about Americans.

Obama isn't really brilliant. He's just smooth. He's also super corrupt and could care less about the American people. $120,000,000 paycheck the first year out of office? Give me a break.

Trump is a fucking buffoon. If I saw Trump walking down the street I would cross the street and cross myself, even without being Catholic. Maybe get some garlic and a stake.

Whatever

Obama had to fight to get the ACA/Obama Care passed against some of the most powerful lobbies in the US, and had to compromise - as you said yourself, a president can't do everything.

Yes, he fought for dogshit and shat right in middle America's mouth.

When I was canvassing for the Democrats in 2018 (because I hate the current Republican party just that much) many of the people I spoke with actually loved Obama Care without knowing that their new health plan had been provided by the Hated Barack Hussein.

That's nice. My amazing plan of $40 a month is now over $400 a month and my new plan is dog. Also partisanship is nothing new. There have been plenty of video's showing people 100% agreeing with a plan and then finding out it was from Trump and doing a complete 180. You are very partisan already so I'm not sure how well this is going to land with you.

And I've seen that borne out in polls - that dumbo Republican Americans hated "Obamacare" but loved Obamacare, which they were too stupid to know were the same thing.

Polls? LOL ok. Again your partisanship is showing.

And seriously, we're on an anonymous message board, you have no idea what experiences other posters have so please refrain from attacking them personally.

By what saying you are ignorant and arrogant? Give me a break. Your entire stance is dripping with both of the aforementioned attributes. I'd say the same thing to your face if you had the guts to actually speak this way in person.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Like this is what I mean when I agree with now many others that the Far Right Trump Groupies, as exemplified by you, deserve the Antifa morons. You are both angry, violent and immune to logic.

Why don't you on the Far Right and the Far Left go fight it out on an island and leave the rest of us alone?

[–]dramasexual 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Trump is not far right lmao

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The first time I interacted with Trump, decades ago, he was a liberal New Yorker.

And a failure. Donnie Dimbulb was a failed real estate speculator (even though he had been given a fortune by his dad) and tied to the heinous Roy Cohn and the New Jersey/ New York mob.

[–]dramasexual 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

...and none of that makes him far right? What are you talking about.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm agreeing with you: Donald Trump is masquerading as a conservative.

The truth is that Don the Con doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone but himself.

[–]dramasexual 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

🤔 but you said "the Far Right Trump Groupies." Trump isn't far right, so it stands to reason that his supporters are also not far right. As far as I'm aware, the far right really doesn't like Trump, either, as they feel he's too comfortable with jewish people and isn't authoritarian or militaristic enough.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trump isn't far right, his groupies are. And they'll excuse anything Donaldo does because it's a cult.

[–]dramasexual 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

How are his supporters far right if he is not far right? It stands to reason that a large majority of avid fans of a particular politician would share that politican's core political beliefs, no?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You are a perfect example of why I don't join the left. I disagree with you and all of a sudden I'm a far right violent extremist who deserves violence upon them. Absolutely pathetic.

Feel free to point to anything, anything at all, were I've advocated or promoted violence.

Also calling someone who has same sex attraction "far right" prooves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you are dillusional.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your last sentences in your previous post - something about saying things face-to-face, which would make one think that you feel that political differences should be solved by violence.

And, I don't know how many times I have to say this, far from being on "the Left," I AM NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh I see. Words are literal violence now. You sounds like the TRA's. I said I would say what I wrote to your face. If you consider thay violence you are unhinged. It's a shame you dont grasp how your position is literally what you claim to be against.

I don"t care what political position you claim. You promote violence.

[–]ForlornBlackbird 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you didn't care about their political position you wouldn't desperately conflate them with Democrat or Liberal. It's hard accepting the fact that moderate, center, or libertarian voters exist, I know.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whose being desperate here besides you? If you read my other post in here you will see I plan on protest voting. A real centrist wouldnt never vote for biden or buy into fear mongering talking points promoted by the left. It's like bill maher saying he was a libertarian for years then going....oh I wasn't ever a libertarian, I just like weed.

Assign any label you want to yourself and others. It doesnt make it true.