LGB Erasure"A trans man and a cis man can reproduce, that means gay people can reproduce by having gay sex with one another uwu"

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[–]julesburm1891 71 insightful - 2 fun71 insightful - 1 fun72 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

  1. Not being able to have biological children with your partner is emotionally difficult and incredibly frustrating for many gay and lesbian couples. (I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: Knowing I couldn’t ever have kids with my partner was the hardest part of accepting my sexual orientation.) Thanks for pointing out that straight couples can have kids, while homosexual couples can’t, Aiden.

  2. This illustrates perfectly why we need to drop the T. If same-sex couples cannot discuss our shared experiences without being accused of bigotry, we cannot speak for ourselves as a distinct group of people.

[–]8bitgay 41 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This illustrates perfectly why we need to drop the T. If same-sex couples cannot discuss our shared experiences without being accused of bigotry, we cannot speak for ourselves as a distinct group of people.

This so much! I think that the issue is that people think too much just about identity. And sure, being able to identify openly as gay is important for me, it'd be awful if I had to pretend to be straight to everyone. But groups are not just about identity. There are real world consequences tied to the differences between different groups. We can't possibly discuss and study these differences if everybody is claiming to be different groups.

Sure, there are differences within a group itself. There are gay men out there who will say "I've never experienced homophobia" in a poll. But the poll results will be very different if half of the gay men you interview are actually straight.

By the way, in the topic of real life differences between different groups... I think it'd be interesting to see data on how many transmen who get pregnant claim to be men when it's time to get father's leave, or how many transmen claim to be men when it's time to retire, or how many transmen claim to be men in countries where military service is only mandatory for men...

[–]julesburm1891 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But groups are not just about identity. There are real world consequences tied to the differences between different groups.

You nailed it. People are treating being gay like it’s a country club to join instead of a phenomenon with realities attached. This mentality inevitably leads to members of the group being unable to advocate for themselves. In turn, the group will end up in basically same situation they were in before the country club moved in.

I’d be interested in those figures too. I am also eternally interested in the fact that the only time you hear about transmen in the news is because they’re pregnant. Because, you know, celebrating females only for our ability to carry children is remarkably progressive.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 24 insightful - 15 fun24 insightful - 14 fun25 insightful - 15 fun -  (0 children)

People are treating being gay like it’s a country club to join instead of a phenomenon with realities attached.

But tumblr told me that straight people are boring, so I wanna be gay now!

[–]8bitgay 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am also eternally interested in the fact that the only time you hear about transmen in the news is because they’re pregnant.

Interesting point about these news. With how popular these articles about pregnant transmen get, it's kinda surprising that you never see anyone bringing up the topic of father/mother leave.

I mean, ideally there shouldn't be this difference, parents of both sexes should get a fair leave. But the reality is that in most countries a trans man would get a way bigger leave than a gay man that adopted a kid.

Gay men and lesbian women don't have the option to simply identify as the opposite sex when it's convenient. If you really claim that you are the opposite sex and there is no difference between you and a cis gay/lesbian, then at the very least you should also keep that opposite sex identity even when it's not convenient.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Totally. It was also one of the hard parts of accepting myself as a lesbian. I never forget one day that I went to a family member's house to see the new born and I almost cried looking at him, knowing that I couldn't have biological children. This was almost 10 years ago. It was really hard to fully accept myself as a lesbian for several reasons and this was definitely one of them. Knowing that I'll never be able to have a family in the "traditional" way in several ways.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

For me it was much easier, as I was growing up, knowing that my body is not able to sustain a kid, and I will most likely die while giving a birth, so I was not even really thinking about children at all. However, I still had pressure from parents and grandparents. Gladly I have younger sister and she is pregnant now. My saviour :)

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Strange that you relatives would even expect that, given your heart problems.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That was making it easier for me too, but they still were hoping that medicine is good enough nowadays. In general it is just "normal" here to wait a kid from any woman, and child-free are often looked at as lunatics :D

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Pregnancy is huge stress on the body and surely not recommended on someone with weak heart. Luckily you're a lesbian. Luckily for many reasons...

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I couldn’t agree more :)

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gaming and sex wouldn't be so easy to do with children around LMAO

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Luckily for many reasons...

Savage 😂😂😂

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know what you're talking about... :D

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

knowing that my body is not able to sustain a kid, and I will most likely die while giving a birth, so I was not even really thinking about children at all.

Yes, it's understandable. What matters is that you're happy :P

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Can't relate at all. I never wanted kids. But if a lesbian wants one, she can easily have, unlike gay men. It wouldn't belong to both parents biologically, but real parents are the ones who raise, not the ones who give the genes.For some lesbianism is a blessing, for others something difficult to accept.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, I know this doesn't happen to all gays and lesbians. But it's true that the child won't belong to both biologically. There are some good alternatives though, but it was the feeling that if I wanted I would never be able to have biological kids with my gf. Now I barely think about it 😂

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

won't belong to both biologically

As far as I know there were researches and experiments with mice and monkeys, when two ovums of two different females were combined together, and such actions were making one of them gave birth for healthy offsprings (kids were always only female).

And later experiments were halted, because it is forbidden to do human experiments and genetic experiments on human in majority of countries (and yet those countries are all making experiments with puberty blockers and surgery on small kids by gender ideologists demands).

So maybe some time in the future, lesbians would be able to have kids~

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, maybe in the future.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Omg, that would be awesome news! :)

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it can really be hard if you're into the classical biological family. As I said, for some women lesbianism is a bless of a nature, for others a curse LMAO

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm with you there, the very fact that their experiences are so mutually exclusive with ours shows that we are not the same. A cis man and a trans man in a relationship have more in common with a straight couple than a gay one. And yet they want to interpret that as us being bigoted and not them being straight

[–]crodish 34 insightful - 4 fun34 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

If it involves two different genitalia it's not homosexual, honey

God I hate translogic

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

No logic in there

[–]8bitgay 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, are you sure that reducing people to their ability to reproduce is dehumanizing? Thanks for the transplaining, it's not like we gays and lesbians have been reduced for it for decades (centuries?).

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Every single "lesbian sex guide" on the big sites was saying this exact thing for years now. And seems it is now coming for gay men as well.

This their ideology is so homophobic and it tries so hard to return homophobia times in the minds of general audience.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So if a cat-otherkin-identifying woman and a man reproduce, that means people can reproduce by having "zoophile" sex with their pets uwu!

aka Trans LogicTM