Meanwhile in Poland: Margot, a self proclaimed ''nonbinary woman'' is ''saving queer kids from the consequences of disinformation about LGBT community'' while being arrested for damaging a truck with homophobic signs on it and physically assaulting the driver. Way to go, LGBTQIAWHATEVERTHEFUCK+!

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 37 insightful - 4 fun37 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

I'm going to be really nitpicky but what does this dude get from getting called "Margot/Małgorzata"??? Like, does it make his pee-pee hard? You look like a nerdy man with glasses, why do you need to be called this name??

AND he's fighting against the "Stop Pedophilia" bill. AND he's acting like a total piece of shit, destroying other people's property and physically attacking them, AND he has support from assholes who should know better.

I feel so sorry for Polish LGB and T who are getting fucked from both sides, both from homophobes, and from these "queer" assholes that are making everything worse.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 17 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

I thought she was too aggressive for a woman, in fact it isn't a woman lol

[–]MyLongestJourney 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

How to win hearts and minds in Poland/s

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The funniest thing is I was on board on supporting the LGBT movement here until that Margot shit. Then I stopped. Fuck it.

[–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't blame you. It is the extremist shits who are visible and not the law abiding,hardworking,patriotic LGBTs.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why does this fuckwit have his own Wikipedia article? I thought you were only supposed to have one if you were notable, ie, are a celebrity and/or have contributed something to the world.

If this moron can have one, then I should have one too! I just need to claim that I'm an "activist."

Also lol what is "saving kids from disinformation?" You mean like preventing child abuse by stop teaching kids that they can change their sex to escape depression, bullying, or homosexuality? Oh wait, no, they obviously don't mean that...

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 14 insightful - 10 fun14 insightful - 9 fun15 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

This is definitely the quality representation we need.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are there any gay people in Poland who are publicly criticising this man? He should not be allowed to get away with it.

EDIT: Polish Stonewall my arse. Michal deserved to be arrested.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

critical queer theory, the gift that keeps on giving

[–]hermiona52 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm just gonna add this - although him going by women pronouns to counterweight his male body (as a non-binary) is eye-rolling, that he fucked up this horrific truck is actually impressive and even that he pushed a driver (he didn't bit him or such) is understandable. A little bit of context for non-Pole folks here.

About a year ago a certain film document about paedophilia in Catholic Church in Poland was released. Of course Church didn't decide to change, but to move attention away from this film and its findings by going all out homophobic. They started to claim we are a danger to family values, that we are plague, after Pride March in Białystok city one priest participated in 'cleaning streets' from LGBT. Also during that march people were attacked, it was literally a hunt for LGBT people. Young gay man had broken collarbone if I recall. And Catholic Church praised attackers for protecting family values.

At the same time more and more regions of Poland started to declare themselves 'free from LGBT ideology'. I live in a city surrounded by those regions.

Then it got even worse in recent months and weeks before Presidential elections. Our current President said that we are not people but an ideology. Ideology worse than Bolsheviks'. Politicians from his party (PIS) said things like 'They are not equal to normal people'.

There were more things said like this and all if a span of mere weeks. We were absolutely dehumanized and even I, who usually am not very emotional, I was wrecked. When I heard words like above I actually had tears in my eyes. There's no way to explain how awful it was in Poland.

Then this fucking truck. This truck plays recordings at full volume, that basically mostly lesbian and gays are paedophiles. It drove around Warsaw and no one could do anything about it. Moreover they parked it often for a few hours each day under a building of certain young leftist group.

So... they heard the worst things imaginable from the highest level of politicians in government and religious leaders, that we are not humans. At the same time they were listening for hours a day, that we are paedophiles (closed windows are not enough to block this truck).

Even I, a woman who is completely not violent, would break. Because even without this truck I was close to breaking. And I would help them wholeheartedly in fucking this truck up. Now, I wouldn't push this huge guy, but I understand that in that kind of circumstances it happened.

That Margot is in a spotlight is not ideal, but everything that happened ever since that incident turned into our version of a small Stonewall. Non-LGBT Poles started to reject government propaganda and started to support us.

To sum it up - fuck PIS and fuck Polish Catholic Church. These are a true vile people.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I'm a Pole myself though I'm not a target of LGBT hate as just an asexual person who can be easily assumed to be just a straight single person. Certainly an asexual counters the whole narrative of gay people being pedos who want to sexualize children, lol. That's why I have ideas that presenting asexuals as a part of LGBT movement would probably help? Anyways I'm just an LGBT ally to respect the people who are actually targeted and opressed.

I remember these cars, these words and messages. I have seen a banner saying LGBT are pedos in my way to work everyday. That depressed me because I have LGBT friends. But at the same time I don't wanna people like Margot a face of this movement. He is just a straight guy pretending to be queer. It wouldn't be anything bad to have a straight ally helping us but he makes people like us (certainly if asexuals become known they will be seen as ridiculous) look ridiculous and a joke.

Presentation matters.

[–]hermiona52 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I actually agree with you. But on the other hand, situation in Poland and arrests and the treatment of said arrested people by the police opened so many eyes. So many moderates changed their stance. Our public conversation suddenly shifted from discussions about what rights we should get to how we should be fighting for them. It's... absolutely amazing. It's like overnight majority of people agrees that we do deserve equal rights, but everyone has now opinion if we should be more passive or aggressive.

In some way Margot was just a spark, he doesn't really matter anymore. I don't think anyone really cared about him that much from the start. It was just a final straw after a few months of horrific actions of our state institutions. If it wasn't Margot it would be anyone else.

No matter what Margot does now, the change already happened and I think things will quickly get better...

...that is if PIS loses next Parliamentary elections. Same-sex partnership will happen probably in the first year, and marriage equality will not be far behind. Only if PIS loses

[–]Seahorse 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They always have that same fucking side glance.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a pain that because of this asshole and the whole TQ shit I can't make myself side with the LGBT movement in Poland which is needed for LGB for sure... But non-binarism starts to be something recognized here and of course there are ridiculous attempts at gender neutering our language in a very ridiculous manner. Fuck this shit.

[–]bisexual_ubermenschstanduserkin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As much as Poland needs more gay rights, what the fuck is this

[–]bisexual_ubermenschstanduserkin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, Wikipedia, the most reliable source of information. Got any articles?