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[–]jiljol 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The inconvenient truth that many radfems ignore is that the transgender movement would have gone nowhere without the massive support from women/trans"men". It's not men who are pushing for powerful organizations like La Leche League and Planned Parenthood to extirpate any and all words related to womanhood. It's not men who harass feminine hygiene companies to drop the Venus symbol from their packaging. It's not men who are tearing down female-only bathrooms. It's not men who are harassing teens off the internet for making a woke faux pas. It's not men who show up in droves to protest female-only events and spaces. Yes, male millionaires are injecting obscene amounts of money into this nonsense, but the "grassroots" is conducted almost exclusively by women/trans"men".

The moment women and gay men realize that it's okay to fight for the things that affect us and that we are not inherently required to contort ourselves into mental doormats to appease the latest Oppressed™ group will be the moment real change begins.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're right to a large extent, but in the US women are divided into a few camps.

There's the woman who's just trying to get by who knows nothing about any of this and would be horrified if she knew.

There's the old school feminists who have also been busy with careers, kids and elderly parents, who also know nothing about this, although a few are waking up.

And then there's the pink-haired, Oberlin gender studies grad, now in either HR, a barista/writer or working in a Congress person's office who is all over it and gets orgasmic yelling at other women to get in line for transgender "rights."

In summary, it's NOT ALL WOMEN who have fallen for this absurd ideology, and once the majority of women who have not been indoctrinated wake up, we will get Trump again. Maybe.

Over on SAIDIT GC a lot of formerly liberal women are calling themselves politically homeless because the Democrats have abandoned women's rights in favor of trans activist demands.

If Trump were savvy, he'd make this a campaign issue and promise these formerly liberal women and other women waking up, that he will fight all the pro-trans activist agenda laws that the Democrats have passed, but Trump is far from savvy. Plus he too hates women. Well, not in the Biblical sense...

[–]artetolife 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am not sure if I agree with this entirely, but I think libfems certainly have a lot more to answer for than the average male who doesn't give a shit about any of these issues.

[–]8bitgay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The moment women and gay men realize that it's okay to fight for the things that affect us and that we are not inherently required to contort ourselves into mental doormats to appease the latest Oppressed™ group

This, so much.

I dunno if it's the same for lesbian women, but I think the main issue in the gay community nowadays is that many gay men have been taught to not give value to gay men. And we are a quite small minority, so it makes sense that gay guys can feel peer pressured.