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[–]a_blue_bird 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Could it be that being lesbian or gay is not quite as absolute or fixed as gender theorists want us to believe?

Someone should tell this guy that the gender theorists claim no such thing, and are actually on the same page as him.

One reason why I don't take such data very seriously is that at that age many people don't know what their sexuality is. Many L&Gs probably ended up in the ''straight'' category. And how many non-LG's are identifying as LG's at that age? Since the number of LG's is very small, it is easy for a small number of misidentified people to distort the data. Forcing a 9th grader to choose a sexulity could very well be a significant factor in obtaining bizarre data.

First, we must ask what’s going in the emotional lives of these individuals that has them behaving in such a hyper-sexualized manner? What emptiness are they seeking to fill?

Also a possibility, as sexuality and gender labels are increasingly often used as a substitute for an actual, well-rounded identity.

This fluidity is particularly true for women, making the L of LGBT a dramatically different animal at its very core than the G.

A round of applause for all the political lesbians, "men are trash I'm a lesbian now", ''my bf grew his hair out, so I am a lesbian now!!", "all lesbians have exceptions, right???" and all the other women who aren't homosexual but claim to be ''lesbians'' for popularity, fashionability, political correctness and whatever other stupid reason.

A young woman recently told me that she is a lesbian, but her sexual attraction is to men. Apparently she’s not an outlier. .... Lesbianism and gayness are more different than they are similar in very fundamental ways. The gay male is more likely to stay in one lane for life

Again female homosexuality is judged based on what all the male-attracted ''lesbians'' behave like. Sorry but you'll have to find and study actual homosexuals to come to any worthwhile conclusions about homosexuality.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If only people left real actual lesbians alone!!!!!!!! We have an absurd number of non lesbians speaking on OUR behalf constantly. It's ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was having a look through this study: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/tfg-sct050219.php and I thought this might be interesting to shed some light on what is going on with "bisexual" women.

For example, 67% of women in the 'mostly straight discontinuous' group were attracted to both sexes in their early 20s. However, this number dropped to almost zero by their late 20s, by which time the women reported only being attracted to the opposite sex.

I think when you look at it overtime as this study is, then you get a clearer picture— lesbians aren't "fluid" but many "bisexual" women are and seem to only have a passing interest in women.

[–]a_blue_bird 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are they really bisexual? I can imagine a few reasons why women in their early 20s would claim to be into other women when they actually aren't.

Straight people made up the largest group and showed the least change in sexual preferences over time. Interestingly, men were more likely than women to be straight - almost nine out of 10 men, compared to less than three-quarters of women.

Do you believe that more than 1/3 of women are either bisexual or homosexual? Because I don't.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No I don't, but I think what it seems to show is that there is a small group of homosexual women, and then a larger segment of bisexual / heterosexual women who have some interest in other women. Like, I think there are loads of straight women who have labelled themselves as bisexual at some point, or have only had a brief / slight interest in other women. I wouldn't call them bisexual.

I think the point of the study though is to show that a lot of people experiment and try things as teenagers or young adults before settling into an identity that more accurately reflects who they are... so a lot of people who might've called themselves bi or lesbian as a teenager probably weren't. I can't tell you what the study means by the fact that most people in the "bisexual" group were no longer bisexual because I can't read the study itself either (like, how did they define bisexual?)... But from what I can see they are grouping together the women who have primarily have sexual experiences with men but also report some level of sexual attraction to the same sex in their teens or 20s, but whose attraction to other women doesn't remain as they get older. I think they want to make this group distinct from bisexuals who have continuing interest in both sexes and homosexual women who are gay from woe to go.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. They're being biphobic and lesbophobic with that statement. 😅

[–]fuck_reddit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A very good breakdown of the article. I find it particularly funny that this guy would also probably write that "LGB people can't know they're L, G, or B in their teens, it's just too early to really know." And then he turns around and uses stats from the same age range as if the self-ID is 100% accurate. Lol I know of people that realized their sexuality in their 20's and other people that """suddenly""" were straight in their twenties after being "soooo kweer" their entire lives...