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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 41 insightful - 7 fun41 insightful - 6 fun42 insightful - 7 fun -  (14 children)

"As a trans man who only tops..." (continues to talk about stuff that has nothing to do with topping.)

Girl, shut the fuck up.

I'm not a guy so IDK why these girls irritate me so much. Every time I see a post like this, it's like I want to slap their hand away from the cookie jar.

[–]Feather 45 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

It's pretty natural to be upset by straight women trying force conversion therapy upon others via lies and assault. "I want you and so I'll lie to get you to fuck me and hurt you if you say no," is sociopathic no matter who it's aimed at.

In these cases though, it's not just sociopathic. It's also fucking dumb. If they want to have sex with men, they could easily have sex with straight men.

"Boypussy" pisses me off just as much as "girldick." Both start with a word describing children and end with a porny slang term for a sexual organ. It's so gross.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly!! And they can even find straight/bi men who are into being pegged by women.

I really don't understand this feeling, it's such a rapist-mentality. How could anyone enjoy having sex with someone when they know that person doesn't want them and finds them repulsive?

They are so delusional, they think after they whine and cry and threaten and punch, suddenly the gay guy is magically going to fall in love with them and actually want the sex.

[–]Feather 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I'm sure that, in their fantasy, the gay guy who falls in love with them will be forever penitent (and therefore in a lower position of power in the relationship) about not having instantly recognized them as the most desirable and legitimate "man" on the planet.

[–]marmorsymphata 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then they're shocked when men call them traps

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly!! And they can even find straight/bi men who are into being pegged by women.

Can confirm. You can be a woman and also do this, for realsies. Without raping anyone, bonus!

I really don't understand this feeling, it's such a rapist-mentality. How could anyone enjoy having sex with someone when they know that person doesn't want them and finds them repulsive?

I'm ready to conclude: Because all of this is political. It isn't personal. Like "political lesbians." No one sane enough to date would start off with this logic, ever. (Obviously they are also malignant narcissists, etc., and that's the overriding problem, but they are a "movement," which also makes their pathology political.)

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

If they want to have sex with men, they could easily have sex with straight men.

But that's not all they want, is it? The other part-- the screw-loose-y one-- is having sex with men AS a man. Where it confirms their so-called "gender identity". THAT'S the real point, here: sex as denial of reality. The reality being that they are women.

So the man MUST be gay. Nothing else will do. Because, otherwise... he's attracted to women, by definition. Which means that this might be why he's having sex with her. No matter what he says, or how often he calls her "bro"... even the possibility is a deal-breaker.

See also: "transbians" and lesbians.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If this is accurate, and I can't think of a better explanation, then this is probably the most profound manifestation of internalized misogyny possible.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that this is the case. While there are a few trans-identified people who probably aren't there for the fetish-- specifically, homosexual transsexual (HSTS) individuals and young women trying to escape the misogyny they face living as women-- fetishizing lesbians among men and fetishizing gay men among women run rampant among trans-identified people.

In fact: take it from the horse's mouth. Over 80% of r/MtF self-reported that they had a fetish before coming out as trans. (I haven't found a good survey yet for trans-identified women, but there are tons of examples with all the fujoshi stuff.) https://saidit.net/s/itsafetish/comments/68jm/over_80_of_the_people_in_rmtf_said_they_had_an/

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Here's an archive of the results: https://archive.vn/lm4ro

Not enough time to absorb all of that right now, but they seem to be mostly talking about themselves, not gay people they'd like to sleep with after transitioning, so I'm not sure if I'm picking up on exactly what you are seeing. But it's certainly true that to live that out with someone else they'd have to target gay people.

One hell of a rabbit hole.

ETA: "live [that] out" — missing word

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, I get what you mean, yeah I just meant to share that as an example of how widespread the fetish is. While theoretically they could date a bi person of the gender/sex they're trying to present as, there are many other comments I've seen, like the commenter above said, there is an abnormal emphasis on trying to pressure homosexuals to date them.

Makes me think, might be good to get a list going of the "I want to date homosexuals for validation" examples, for reference.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah if this is a thing, documenting it is significant.

[–]marmorsymphata 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There is just something uniquely repulsive about sex changing fujoshi like this. Not sure why it bothers me more than the reverse, but it does. I had the misfortune to be in the Supernatural fandom on tumblr for a long time and I have read of LOT of these creeps' manifestos. Their beliefs about how gay men work boggle the mind already (saying that a man beating another half to death means one is a top and the other is a bottom that lets it happen because as a genetically defined gay bottom he loves abuse so hitting him isn't wrong; single handedly reviving the gay men are pedophiles trope by writing as much underage incest as they can but pretending it's not immoral because they think this is just how gay men work; etc). For them to take it even further and actually go out into the world and force themselves on gay men just blasts it to dizzying, incomprehensible levels.

I suppose I expect more empathy from my fellow women, having to deal with sexual harassment our whole lives. At least men don't cloak their lesbian fetishes as activism, as far as I know.

[–]lavender_menace 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least men don't cloak their lesbian fetishes as activism, as far as I know.

Transwomen do, that whole rhetoric comes from them and was already tested on lesbians. They don’t only want to teach us to like dick, but some also want us to learn the joys of being mothers... against our will.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose I expect more empathy from my fellow women

Let me introduce you to a few textbook Cluster B predators. A vagina is not proof of passing a sanity test, sadly.