RantI'm sick and tired of the 'gay' and 'lesbian' labels being used by straight males/females.

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[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

For straight women, my theory is how recent (maybe 2014 - present) liberalism and 4th wave feminism have idolized what would be more traditionally male relationship behavior in women.

Saying prostitution and casual relationships are empowering, exposing yourself is empowering, and so on. Women are conditioned to not trust their own judgement and are susceptible to social contagion. So it doesn't surprise me that many straight women pick up these behaviors that are meant to give an aura of empowerment but are really just a new, progressive way to make them more appealing to straight men.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is that 4th wave feminism or just 3rd wave liberal feminism?

In any case, I like this analysis because it does seem like everything that is sold to women as empowering and a choice directly benefits men as a class or at least plays up to their desires. I hate that sex positivity has just become synonymous with this, commodification of the female body.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

3rd wave liberal feminism is cancer and opposite of original feminism was about. It's more like an ideology pleasing men , sexist stereotypes and sexual objectification, called feminism.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It can't be really be called feminism, if it is not about women, but about men and everyone else. So I'd say 3rd wave haven't yet even started.

Majority of NB women are pretty young, tho. I'd say 10 years ago they would be Emo, 30 years ago they would be "witches", etc.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

4th wave started the heavy incorporation of social media for feminist activism, which makes any social contagion worse imo. I think dissociation with physical identity is more prevalent now because of it, and believing a fabricated identity is far easier. My reasoning is you can't replicate what's happening now without social media.

It could easily be 3rd wave also, I'm just speculating more than anything.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I have just been associating 4th wave with “4th Wave Now.” But totally agree that this environment is not possible without social media. Trans activism 100% relies on social media because if we had to see the majority of these people in person to witness their activism, well it would be abundantly clear that they don’t have the lady/man brains trapped in the wrong body, and are a gaggle of LARPers, fetishists, trenders, and deeply mentally ill people. When they can hide behind social media, they get to only use their “best” most sympathetic examples as the face of their movement. But even then they sometimes get it wrong (e.g. with Lindsay Hecox). I think this has also been devastating for transsexuals who would otherwise be steering this movement.