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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Seriously, fuck the American school system. On the one hand, I'm happy that (in one particular case out of many) bullying is being discouraged. But back in the 80's/ 90's when I went to school, they were most certainly not showing videos about how to be nice to LGB kids. Both the students and the teachers had no problem being homophobic, and the teachers had no problems looking the other way when kids wanted to bully other kids for "Being L/G" (I put that in quotes because many kids who I'm 100% certain were straight got accused of being gay or lesbian and got bullied viciously for it. "Gay/Lesbian" was just an excuse to bully, and there was no way to disprove it one the accusation was hurled at you. The accusation only stopped when people got bored with it.)

Now class-time is being wasted on learning how to kiss trans ass? Are you kidding me?

Show anti-bullying videos, take anti-bullying seriously, single out children who are displaying bullying-behavior and give them one-on-one attention and teach them to not bully, single out children who are prone to getting bullied, and coach them how to not appear like a target (I know this sounds like victim-blaming, but it's not. There's always that one kid in school that has a giant "bully me" sign following him around. That child can be given important life skills and the opportunity to modify his behavior so that he doesn't remain a target for the rest of his life.)

Bullying has been going on in American schools for such a long time that it is basically considered normal. But with trans kids they draw the line??? Why not kids on the spectrum? Why not disabled kids? Why not kids who are obviously getting abused at home? Why not poor and disadvantaged kids? Why not the immigrant and minority kids? Why are the trans kids the ones getting the royal treatment after all other kids have been told to get fucked?

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    [–]Locke 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I actually consider myself demisexual (though also bi, but I'm still coming to terms with that). I see whether or not sexual attraction is experienced as being a different continuum than sexual orientation, so I'm fine with it not being considered part of LGBT+. I can admit my odd feelings around sexual attraction are likely related to autism and trauma. I think a lot of people don't admit that. Demisexuality is a label that personally helps me although I think it's separate from LGBT+. It's a bit hurtful for me to see it lumped in with things like made up genders. Not like it's "literally killing me" or anything lol. I am a bit curious why that attitude crops up here so often. I guess a few outspoken wackos probably give demisexuals and asexuals a bad name.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Nah there is nothing wrong with being demisexual, if its a label that helps you thats great. I would assume most people fit under the definition of demisexual though.

    But as you said, a straight person that needs to have an emotional connection before having s*x is not the same as an LGBT person.

    I just think society is over-sexualized so a lot of young people label themselves or like to think of themselves as asexual as a way to cope with it all.

    [–]Locke 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's a little tough to describe the distinction so I get why it's misunderstood, but demisexuality isn't about choosing to not have sex until emotional attraction is there, it means the sexual attraction doesn't exist in the first place until the emotional connection is there. I thought I was asexual for a while until I met someone I felt sexually attracted to. I grew up with a lot of emotional neglect and abuse and I'm willing to admit it might be related to that, along with my autism. It could definitely be somehow related to a reaction to a hypersexualized culture too. It wasn't a choice but I can see how certain things probably influenced it. Including the asexuality umbrella under LGBT muddies that, because it's so important to say LGBT people were born the way they are, people bristle at the possibility that trauma might have caused something they make a big part of their identity. Like how a lot of people considering transitioning should probably be focused on healing from trauma instead. I think the rise of encouraging children to transition is related to constantly pushing the prevalence of childhood trauma under the rug. It's easier to believe a child was born in the wrong body than to admit they're traumatized in a society refusing to help them heal from it. And we cause more trauma by closing our eyes to the truth. It's sickening and I'm glad groups like this exist to openly discuss it.