DiscussionBeing associated with radical feminism is dragging this movement down.

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[–]lairacunda 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

No, I was replying to you. But you may be correct that I did not get the whole picture or got the wrong one. Specifically, "We can't really exclude LGB who are radfem from s/LGBdroptheT" and "... be more clear about our rules ... misandry is not allowed." In my experience, people who talk about misandry are MRAs, misogynists and handmaidens. Maybe you're not but if you use their vocabulary, you're going to get classified. No two ways about it.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe you're not but if you use their vocabulary, you're going to get classified. No two ways about it.

You can be all "my way or the highway", but if you are, you are going to turn away people who actually agree with you from your movement.

This is exactly why I have felt uncomfortable with GC. I don't think my beliefs are even that different! But if I make even one mistake in phrasing, I am "the enemy" and am somehow on the side of MRAs? You've gotta be kidding me. What if I just am not educated on these topics? You ever consider that?

I have endured misogyny-fueled acts of violence for a good portion of my life. I do not know whatever set of cool vocabulary words you personally use, or that are common among radfems, or GC feminists, or whoever else. Why do I not know them? Because I have not been exposed to them, and I honestly have not yet had the time and energy to learn them.

I hope you learn to consider other people's perspectives and where they are coming from. And I hope you are not representative of the GC community, which I was considering engaging more with but I sure as fuck don't want to now, thanks. No disrespect intended to the other individuals I interacted with who were thoughtful.

edit: Also, you missed half my quote that you were originally responding to-- THIS is what I said:

We can't really exclude LGB who are radfem from s/LGBdroptheT (or at least, I think that would be unfair and ridiculous)

Some other commenters seemed to be suggesting this, and I made it clear in my comment that this would be ridiculous. And yet you chose to jump on the fact that I said the word "misandry" as evidence that I am a radfem-hating or GC-hating MRA ally.

[–]lairacunda 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I did not call you a "handmaiden". I even said "maybe you're not". To clarify, people use words and depending on how they use them and what they say, other people will assume where they are coming from. That's all. This isn't personal. Learn or don't learn, whatever you want.