Colonizationr/askgaybros discusses the problem of non-binary people and their activism

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[–]Ambisextrous 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Good to see some sanity again, although a lot of idiots in that thread too like someone saying Marsha/Malcolm Johnson was trans and started the stonewall riots and that sexuality is fluid (eyeroll)

[–]8bitgay 36 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

lgbTQ+: you owe it all to us! A trans woman started the Stonewall riots!

also lgbTQ+ after being shown sources of Marsha himself saying he wasn't trans and didn't started the riots: omg why are you so obsessed with who started the riots?

[–]Willpoll 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

My question is: why fixate on the riots? Whenever someone tells me that I owe my rights to a trans person I tell them no I don't. first of all I don't owe anyone my rights, that's why their called rights, second I am allowed to marry because of people who went through the courts in cases like United states V. Windsor. Sure stonewall was a step, but saying I am allowed to marry because of trans people supposedly at stonewall is like saying the Arabs created the computer because they discovered algebra

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In the u.s. at least, it helped grow the movement, as many gay groups started popping up after that. I guess it was sort of a rallying cry. But you are right, the real work was all the boring legislative stuff to get us the rights like marriage. The only reason stonewall should be "fixated on" is because they are trying to steal a part of our history, claim it as theirs, then use it to guilt us into supporting them. It's important that we correct them.

[–]Willpoll 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair. It just gets tiring after a point.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it shouldn't have become a fight... its should just been a historical event, one of many. But yes, it's tiring.

[–]kwallio 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like at this point bringing up stonewall should be like someone bringing up hitler in any argument about anything else, you've lost the argument at that point. Its become so ridiculous.