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[–]SedateApe 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think the term "separate from the T" would be more attractive to the.... sensitive, yet uneducated, "gay allies" out there.

Since 2005, about the time the TQ+WTF crowd pushed hard into the lime light, they have used the LGB community as their umbrella of safety. This umbrellas of protection, along with line "we're all in the same boat" also allowed the TRA to gain momentum. It's also about the time they self-included themselves into positions within gay charities and political organizations. Charities and organizations they now dominate. Something the LGB allowed to happen. We let our guard down and now we're paying the price.

Why should we "separate from the T"? For the reasons already mentioned...that same-sex attraction had nothing in common with gender identity. But the serious reason is....they don't want us to be part of "it" any longer. At least the young and excitable ones don't.

Ever notice how a discussion about "throwing the gays out" gets squashed just about the time all the villagers normally reach for their pitchforks and touches? The leadership/sub mods strangle it with the discussion with its own birth cord! They know the TRA agenda does not stand a chance of succeeding if the LGB and the TQ+WTF go two different directions.

When they pushed for bathroom choice....it was because the LGBtq+ community wanted it. Anyone here actually back that bathroom choice issue?

How about trans women competing in women's sports? Why is this being allowed to happen? Because the LGBtq+ people want it so badly. I don't remember saying this would be a good thing.

Without the LGB the TQ+ are just that 0.6%. And break it down to its basics and it's only the 0.03% and those from the 0.3% of the alphabet soup that follow the TRA also that are backing this shit.

The 95.4% that are the heterosexual population believe that we, the 4.0% that are the LGB actually support these social changes.

I'm going to say that THIS is reason enough! So the heterosexual world gets to find out who, and how many, are actually pushing child transistionings, surgical alterations before the age of 18, and the placing if one small group above and higher then any other group. In the US everyone strives to be equal. No one and no group better than any other. This is not what the TRA has in mind. They want to be placed in a pedestal.

The only real reason for a separation...so we don't get blamed!