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[–]Gearbeta 37 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I'm so tired of the black trans narrative. Here they are harassing a bunch of gay men about them not fighting for their rights. Bitch please, you don't even fight for your OWN rights. The people killing black transwomen are STRAIGHT MEN. And they always have been. And its sex work that leads to the high murder rates. But these people are too busy blaming lesbians not being into males, straight black women existing, gay men existing and teenagers not wanting to share the bathroom with the opposite sex for their deaths to actually do something about the real problem.

[–]insta 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The people killing black transwomen are STRAIGHT MEN.

They're also disproportionally black straight men too. If we're going to make such a big deal about POC trans people we might as well face the reality that it's black dudes that are most likely to murder them.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the part they're NEVER going to let you get away with pointing out.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That and they already have rights.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Don't anyone take this the wrong way because I'm a born-American citizen myself, but I just want to point out that the rest of the world is going "WTF is wrong with America?" because of things like this. They are making jokes like "Americans are having a Corona-party" on the street again and "American protests with free Corona gift for attending" and things like that. The rest of the world is so gobsmacked that America has the highest Corona numbers in the world (but of course, also the largest amount of tests, so of course the numbers are going to be more accurate, I always defend this point) but that Americans are so eager to rush out into the streets and catch and spread Corona like it's a joke.

The things they are saying is annoying/infuriating. Like who the fuck cares about specifically only "black trans women" right now? Let's just all together support ALL black people. Black men, black women, black children, black humans. I know, I know, me even saying "ALL black lives matter" is the equivalent of saying "All lives matter" to these people. That's what happens when you nitpick people's intentions to fit your agenda, eventually they come to nitpick your intentions to fit theirs.

[–]Gearbeta 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

BLM was supposed to be about all black lives and then it got hijacked to be trans focused like all modern social justice movements. And even before that BLM didn't give a shit about black womens lives.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I want to support black people and black lives but I don't understand what's going on with BLM (I don't have enough information, and people keep twisting the information to serve their own needs.) But it feels like if you are not pro-BLM, you are automatically anti-black person? It's so confusing. It seems like there is so much rage and emotion happening, nobody is discussing the actual facts.

[–]Gearbeta 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, you're not alone in that regard. I'm black and I don't know what's going on with BLM.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not knowing what's going on is exactly what they want. They choose an innocuous name like BLM so that if you dont support it they can say you are racist for not agreeing with everything they say. Then you add in that there are like 4 or 5 entities or ways that BLM is being used it's really easy for them to pull the bait and switch. Also facts now take a backseat to feelings and emotions. Facts are a form of epistemic violence.

[–]Shinjin_NanaNopes faster than an Aeldari Jetbike 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I just want to make a slight correction - Initially BLM was about ending police violence and focused specifically on black <s>people</s> men.

These days it's just letters painted on a baseball bat to hit people as racist if they don't agree with the movement/slogan. The wheels fell off the wagon.

[–]Gearbeta 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right. I mean, there's been several cases where a black woman has been the one being unfairly attacked by the police or subject to unfair sentencing and huh... would you look at that BLM is nowhere to be fucking found. Breanna Taylor didn't get even half as much support as George Floyd and the support she did get was mostly from women, mostly black. People with the BLM tag on their twitter account turned it into a fucking meme. And I've found several times people with BLM in their bios being racist towards black people (usually black women). The only black lives BLM matters to are those of black males including transwomen. Black females are only there to mule for them, they don't care about us.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

BLM only cares about black people killed by white police. They have never cared about all black lives. If they did they would be marching in chicago every day with an anti gang message.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I posit that it was never about black lives and the trans thing was baked-in from the start.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Saying all lives matter shouldnt be an issue either. If everyone only picks one group to promote then racism is going to thrive, as it is currently.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, exactly. It's my opinion that 99.999% of people who say "All lives matter" are well-meaning when they say it. People in my country were posting that hashtag on social media to support African Americans and got REAMED for it and none of them could even understand why these randos from America were attacking them. A lot of them are so confused they think they got attacked by like KKK members/white supremacists who hate black people, because they do not understand how anyone can oppose "all lives matter" they are interpreting the backlash to mean that the people who disagree with "all lives matter" are saying "black lives don't matter." Trying to explain SJW logic to them is exhausting. (Yes, I get it, all lives matter but we are focusing on the black lives right now, please nobody explain it to me, I get it.) But the backlash to "all lives matter" is just overkill. People are using it as an excuse to be assholes when all they really have to do is relax and explain, the explanation takes less that two seconds if you do it right and don't use it as an opportunity to wank off about how woke you are.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing is they aren't REALLY focused on black lives. It's only black lives killed by white police which is a yearly number you can count on both hands and not run out of fingers. A lot of people in the US wanted the all lives matter slogan because it was more inclusive for fighting police brutality which is really a class issue. The most accurate slogan would be "poor lives matter. The rich people funding BLM don't like that one though.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The reason some Americans say "All Lives Matter" is because they disagree with the premise that black lives don't matter.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, exactly! There is this one reality TV star, Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of New York, and she dared to say "All Lives Matter" and the fans ripped her apart. This is an elderly senior citizen woman who has no idea what's going on on the internet. I believe she genuinely just meant that all lives matter to her, and there was no (((dogwhistle))) anti-black/pro-white message like the fans who attacked her were implying. The truth is, a lot of non-black people feel more comfortable saying "all lives matter" because they are trying to send the message of "we are all the same, and I am with you." But this message is being viciously misinterpreted for the sake of drama and conflict. (And it's not black people doing the "misinterpreting", it's other white people who want to do a performance art of being woke.)

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wokeholes are defined by victimhood, therefore any statement that repudiates victimhood is an affront to the meaning of their existence. Perhaps this is largely an American phenomenon, but I think this is also pervasive in Western Europe and Oceana.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We tend to value individual liberty more than the rest of the world.

[–]CJLez 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

As a non-American watching from the outside as the situations there seem to be escalating more and more (esspecially Portland/Seattle type cities) - do you guys think Trump or Biden will win in November?

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth)[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

without covid, trump would easily win. The rioting is turning off alot of people so that could hurt Biden. Biden seems like he's having mental issues too so I think a debate will be bad for him. And Bden keeps insulting the black community.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Biden seems like he's having mental issues

If Biden really falls on his face in the debates then Trump will have a chance, but if he holds his own I think Biden will win. Trump's victory margins were small in many important states so to act like it's in the bag is foolish.

And Bden keeps insulting the black community.

Nobody outside of right-wing media gives a shit tho.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth)[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nobody outside of right-wing media gives a shit tho.

Are you saying the left should or shouldn't care?

[–]insta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's saying some pretty stupid stuff about black people and if the media were honest (lol) they would be ripping into him on it. But he's in favor of gibs and flacking for progressive causes so nobody cares.

[–]Willpoll 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No matter who wins, the other side won't accept it. Biden's not doing himself any favors by not condemning the rioting but trump hasn't exactly done too well when it comes to the lockdowns. It's a toss up at this point

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

trump wins - things get worse

biden wins - things get worse

i think biden might win because people are tired of him, but it's not like he'll be much better anyway

[–]DimDroog 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump.

[–]Shinjin_NanaNopes faster than an Aeldari Jetbike 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, democratic governors being weak on the protests/rioting never looks good for them in the eyes of swing voters and moderates. If the covid checks come out is september I'd lean trump to break the blue wall again.

But it would be like last time, winning by a few points on the edges.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Legit ask but the more significant question is will the governors, senators, representatives, and mayors win their elections?

[–]julesburm1891 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Until the past year, I was a life-long liberal. Now, you’d have to be willfully blind to not see that the modern American left is authoritarian on pretty much every issue and actually crazy on several other issues.

[–]Shinjin_NanaNopes faster than an Aeldari Jetbike 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are not alone. I have taken this journey as well.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth)[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

:ink to video since I screwed up title lol

https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1292268389059108880

[–]BiHorror 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just knew that clicking that link was a bad idea... My damn blood pressure, mate. How does those tweets not have multiple retweets!? Ugh.

[–]InLaymansterms 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Both BLM and TRA are part of the same, blind, leftist agenda and it’s sad when I see my friends falling for it too.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Read the BLM mission statement. Support for the T is in there. I have a hunch that whichever sinister movement is pushing the T takeover of LGB and women's orgs. is also pushing the T takeover of BLM.

Follow the money...

[–]Astrid2448 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I almost feel bad for these people, because I think they really believe this false history is the truth

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trojan Horse. The biggest threat comes from the inside.