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[–]SeasideLimbs 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The ones who do don't fit Type 1. They are very downlow and not interested in girly things nor sassy.

[–]artetolife 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Isn't that pretty much Blaire White? Sassy gay stereotype turned MtF and pretty much admits that being too femme for gay guys was part of the decision to transition.

[–]SeasideLimbs 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Who knows, likely but hard to tell without actually knowing what's going on inside White's head. I've seen more than enough supposedly gay MtFs who were very adamant about being "truscum" and "HSTs" and then turned out to frequent the same fetish communities as the average AGP and very much being interested in women. Remember, an actual gay man has no reason to be interested in femininity. The only gay men I could see transitioning that way are ones like those in the middle east, where it's either transition or death. A gay man raised in a highly homophobic, religious environment for example, who likely will have an easier time seeing himself as a woman who is with men than as homosexual. Such people are unlikely to find any joy in their femininity though, which rules out the kind obsessed with make-up and dresses.

[–]Astrid2448[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Plenty of gay men who don't even consider themselves trans love makeup and fashion. There are a lot of people in entertainment like this. Some examples could be Jeffree Star and James Charles. I don't see why a gay man who transitions couldn't like those things.

[–]SeasideLimbs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

AGP. A good quarter of the gay community is bisexual or heterosexual crossdressing men. It's only recently that they began identifying as trans as well.

[–]Astrid2448[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm aware they exist. I'm just saying that saying ALL men who like feminine things must just be AGP isn't true

[–]SeasideLimbs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Depends on which feminine things one talks about. I'd certainly go so far as to say that 99% of men who "like to wear dresses" do so for fetishistic reasons. Mind, I'm talking about people who seek these things out. It's perfectly possible to be a "trans woman" and not be all that girly in presentation. You, on the other hand, described Type 1 as "in love with heels and dresses."

[–]Astrid2448[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, in love with heels and dresses in the same way as a typical insta model or LA party girl.

[–]SeasideLimbs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

typical insta model or LA party girl.

Neither of which they are, since they're gay men, not women.

[–]Astrid2448[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for your totally necessary and very intelligent clarification