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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 51 insightful - 6 fun51 insightful - 5 fun52 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Love the long comment below it that debunks every single claim!!!! So sick of ignorant trolls passing along their ignorant bullshit as facts.

[–]fijupanda[S] 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Preach!

[–]immersang 39 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm kind of amazed how many comments there are completely trashing the original post. That gives me some hope. I didn't think there were that many clear thinking people left on Tumblr.

[–]JulienMayfair 31 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

The myth of gender utopia.

[–]fuck_reddit 31 insightful - 7 fun31 insightful - 6 fun32 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

"In the before time before [christ/mohammed/European colonization/the Fall of Rome/hitler/capitalism/society etc. etc. etc.] the world was perfect and everything existed in perfect, balanced, utopian harmony!!!1!"

[–]lavender_menace 11 insightful - 14 fun11 insightful - 13 fun12 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

And then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.

[–]luckystar 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I hate this shit so much "Gender binary is a Western colonial invention!". Confucian thought strongly influence[d] China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Vietnam for thousands of years and has a clear "gender binary" as one of its most fundamental tenets. Literally far more humans on earth live in a Confucian patriarchal "gender binary" culture than in a Western one. These people can't see beyond their own backyards and think they're worldly because they said they don't like white people lol.

[–]fuck_reddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"hm yes, today I, a white person who has not read a single book or text written after 1950, am going to lecture a people of different cultures and people who have read the texts of other cultures carefully and with an open mind that they are ignorant and stupid." In all seriousness though it annoys me so much. I had a high school history teacher that was bomb AF like she traveled to do history research in foreign countries at her own expense like I'm talking going to Iran solo as a woman and asking people tough questions about Iranian government and culture at the ruins of Persepolis. And she was willing to make harsh (but accurate) cultural judgements, and at the same time, she encouraged people to be more open minded culturally and intellectually. But she has--since her retirement--been deemed a virulent racist by former students (who also just so happened to get bad grades in her class) for saying the hijab is motivated by sexism and foot binding was one of the greatest atrocities ever perpetuated against women... oh, this virulent racist also tutors immigrants in her free time (for free) in English, civics, history, etc. and funds the education of college students in syria... but she's a racist...

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So Hijra is just an oppressive gender role used against intersex people...?

Well damn. There the trans community go again, glorifying concepts that harm intersex people. I swear, that's one of their fave past times!

[–]fijupanda[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a long history of hijras. Some of them are intersex, at times deified and followed around for life advice and blessings, most of them are ostracized and outcast as having bad karma. Some of them are transwomen, some of them are castrated (but not as practiced today as before I think).

During the Muslim Mughal dynasty ruling of much of Hindustan or India, hijras were castrated by law I think and served in harems. Similar to castration of slaves in Arab slave trade in order to prevent offspring for instance. Some became advisors during the dynasty or soldiers.

People that become hijras come from poor families or working class families and are often shunned by their families. They become sex workers and suffer additional stigmas to it. There is also the issue of caste system which still impacts people in India, so some of the hijras from so called lower caste have limited choices and opportunities.

Some people worship and/or seek their advice because they see their suffering as something extraordinary. It's kind of fucked up on many levels.

Since castration is looked upon as stopping all desire hijras are considered blessed with certain powers such as bestowing couples with fertility.

During colonial British rule, they were demonized as sodomites, prostitutes and child kidnappers, and stripped of inheritance rights.

In Hinduism, there is a concept of third gender which usually includes gender non conforming individuals.

The god Shiva is sometimes portrayed as half male, half female or in fusion with the creative feminine principle as far as I understand or represents balance of power in the cycle of creation and destruction. Mind you, Shiva is a god of destruction. So there is sort of a reverence for gender non conforming individuals but even being idolized brings its own share of issues let alone being demonized.

Overall, it's complicated. And they're heavily ostracized today even though some gurus supposedly try to help them but some just exploit them.

"On 15 April 2014, in National Legal Services Authority v. Union of India, the Supreme Court of India ruled that transgender people should be treated as a third category of gender and as a socially and economically “backward” class entitled to proportional access and representation in education and jobs." source: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/culturalanthropology/chapter/hijra/

Best you talk to a couple of Indians tho. I am no expert nor am i Indian. It's interesting tho since some of it is similar to the pagan worship of my ancestors (Ilyrians, Slavs) before Christianity came over, and Hinduism is somewhat revered by some in my neck of the woods because of it.

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    [–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Owned lol

    [–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Old blackjackgabbiani gets owned everywhere