LGB ErasureJust Say No to Umbrella-Terming ("LGBTQ+" and "Queer")

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[–]Ko-hi 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

That first A still about sexuality! Asexuality is what rounds out the spectrum of sexualities, same/opposite/both/neither.

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

"Asexual" is similar to the label "queer" in that an exact definition is impossible to arrive at. If I want to get thoroughly confused, all I have to do is try and sort out all the contradictory claims made about asexuality! Because it's so nebulous, I can't accept asexual persons as part of that spectrum you refer to. Nor do I believe they suffer oppression that's comparable to what Lesbians, Gay men and Bisexual folk suffer. But as I said before, there's no reason for you to worry because the LGBTQ+ leadership believes differently. You're definitely part of the Incredibly Expanding Acronym. What more do you want?

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Asexuality is pretty easy to define. It is just not wanting any sexual contacts or relationships, for the whole life or temporary.

However, I am not sure if it is something separated or alternative to sexuality or orientations. I am living alone and not really having any sexual feelings to anyone for around 6-7 years now (I still have romantic feelings and flirting around, thought), so I am asexual, however, at same time I am lesbian, because I love and want only other women, both romantically and sexually, it is just period in my life now that I want to be alone. So asexuality is just one different beast. It is like you can be both tall and have brown hair - just not related things.

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Asexual and Lesbian at the same time? That's one of the contradictions I was talking about. Is that supposed to be two sexual orientations paired up in one person? Shut the front door!

Without going into much detail, I could describe myself as asexual the way you describe it. But the point is: Whatever else we may be, we're Gay people! That's what qualifies us for inclusion in LesBiGay liberation movements. Asexual liberation? Don't understand it, can't relate to it, and won't pretend otherwise. All I know is that pretending asexuality is directly comparable to homosexuality in terms of persecution is dishonest. Not that I'm accusing you or anyone else here of doing that.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Didn't I just said that asexuality is not sexual orientation? And it is not gender either. It is tied with sexuality, but that is it. Asexuality is mostly pressured in a way that people may think asexual person is LGB or pressure to get married, etc. So problems are different to sexual orientation problems. And unlike sexual orientation, it can change, appear or dissapear, or last whole life (as I was sexually active until 6-7 years ago, until I decided I want to be alone for some time, and that time not ended yet).

At least by the old description/meaning of the therm, maybe TQ+ created new meaning to it, I don't know. But even if we think of asexuality of sexual orientation that is "inherent sexual and romantic attraction to no one" - homophobic countries still will not hate you for being alone. Only problems can be in countries like China, where having kids and being married is required, but that is same pressure as on everyone, not specifically asexuals.

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That isn't exactly what you said, but I appreciate your clarification. I think we agree that people aren't an oppressed class due to their asexuality.