LGB ErasureJust Say No to Umbrella-Terming ("LGBTQ+" and "Queer")

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[–]ThiccDropkickGay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know which one to use tbh. I think LGB has become too conspicuous and you immediately draw attention for excluding the t. So unless I'm in the mood for a debate I usually stick to LGBT. Never any more letters though

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The more you stretch that acronym, the less real community it represents. I'm aware of deep divisions between Lesbian and Gay male activists that go back as far as the heyday of the Mattachine Society. Bisexual folk have always complained about the disrespect they get from Gay people (and the tension goes both ways, although that's seldom talked about); and we know only too well about the uproar radical transgender activism has caused.

If we're to be referred to by an acronym, or an umbrella term if you will, then we should all have a significant characteristic in common. Shared same-sex orientation makes sense of "LGB"; but when you add the "T", that's where the problems start. There's not enough commonality. LGB folk have fought against the idea that we're disordered, while most Transfolk embrace it. That "trapped in the wrong body" mindset hasn't been part of Gay activism for many years, and we certainly don't want to reclaim it. At least, I don't!

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Originally T was added for transsexual homosexuals. And LGBT was still ONLY about sexuality. Now T was hijacked by "transgenders" who are not even transsexuals with "born in wrong body" but some people called "transgenders" (previously transgender and transsexual were synonims, as gender was equal to sex, but not anymore) with "I feel like other sex" or "being other sex is my kink", and QIAANB+ part added was not about sexuality either. Almost everything that is after LGB nowaydas is about either sexual kinks or "how you feel yourself" or "what stereotype you will like to follow", not about sexuality at all. Plus if LGB is mostly about acceptance and "we are normal, just like everyone else, let us live. Being homosexual is same as being with brown or white hair, nothing special", the TQ+ is about "we are different, we need more rights than other people, make sure to remember that we are different and use special pronounses, change the world". And in general TQ+ has a lot more in common with movements like Feminism or Men Rights Activism.

And this is main issue with TQ+ under umbrella term - they want absolutely different things than we (LGB) are, they have absolutely different problems than we have, and even whole core reason of those problems is different. If Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals have something in common - romantic and/or sexual attraction to same sex people, if all LGB people have same reason for being oppressed and it is shown in same way to all of them, then TQ+ have nothing in common both with LGB part and even within themselves.

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you believe, as I do, that the intent behind all this acronym amending was deliberate sabotage to the Gay Rights movement?

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it was intentional for the most of the time. However, now it is almost certainly is.