Reminder: Marsha P Johnson did NOT start the Stonewall Riots. LGB people do NOT owe TQ+ for our rights. Do NOT let gay history to be erased.

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Stonewall did not give me my rights either. I am a non-american, born way after the riots occured. An event that happened decades ago in a different country did not affect my life, and I do not owe it, or anyone involved, anything. Especially considering my life still sucks.

[–]Poofter[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly! And I’m sorry to hear. I hope life gets better for you. I know some countries like Poland, Iran, Russia, etc all have decades of work ahead of themselves. Hope the best for you

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm Russian... I don't live there anymore. But the laws and stuff aren't even the issue, it's the social problems. Even in a "liberal" country. I personally don't care about marriage or anything like that, what hurts me is the shame.

[–]materialrealityplz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is strange, how the American story about anything - racism, stonewall, seems to pushed globally. Well, not so strange, considering America's soft power and power in general.

[–]SanityIsGC 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hi there straight female here who lurks. I just wanted to mention that Graham Linehan interviewed Fred Sargeant. A really interesting and compelling interview. During it Sargeant states that it was a butch lesbian Stormé DeLarverie who instigated the Stonewall riot and Sargeant said trans were not part of the early gay rights movement. Interview at link

https://youtu.be/n3DFJC0try0

[–]eirbjorntransphobia incarnate 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Even if MPJ was a trans woman of color (s/he wasn’t) and threw the first brick (s/he didn’t), just because members of a certain demographic contributed to “our fight” doesn’t mean that it absolves everyone in that said demographic from criticism and gives them the right to call the shots. The majority of people fighting in those riots and later fighting for LGB(T) rights were white “cis” gay men and lesbians, but you don’t see anyone saying “you owe your rights to white gays and lesbians, how dare you criticize and exclude them”.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is completely unrelated, but have you seen the Portlandia episode where a bookstore owner suggests a book called "s/he"? The way it's pronounced makes me die every time I see the term.

[–]eirbjorntransphobia incarnate 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I haven’t, could you DM me the title or YT link, please?

[–]davids877Straight Male Man 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Wikipedia continues their erasure/promotion of Marsha:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_rights_activists

  • Marsha P. Johnson (August 24, 1945 – July 6, 1992) was an American gay liberation activist and transgender woman. Known as an outspoken advocate for gay rights, Johnson was one of the prominent figures in the Stonewall uprising of 1969.

[–]Starhunter 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

As a l lesbian in my sixties who spent much time fighting for both women’s and LGB rights; I am losing hope in stopping this erasure of both. I know I shouldn’t, but I now see pronouns listed for many public figures (she/her he/him ) in every tweet or comment. Anyone with suggestions to how I can get out of this pit?

[–]jjdub7TERF (Trans Exterminating Reactionary Fascist) 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

um, remind yourself of Jeremy Corbyn's asinine insistence on declaring his pronouns each and every time he made a public statement and how very, very badly alienated his party's core demographic of sane, working class people to the point where they elected Boris Johnson, a goofier bastardized version of Donald Trump, just to spite Corbyn and Labour's self-anointed smugfuckery.

always make me smile to remember that the majority will continue to swat the daylights out of woqueness on the grandest of stages.

[–]fr_bandersnatchghey... 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The specific Wikipedia page on lists Johnson as "variably identified as gay, as a transvestite, and as a queen (referring to drag queen)." So there's an discrepancy on Wikipedia between the Marsha P Johnson page and the mini biographical synopsis on that "List of LGBT rights activists" page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_P._Johnson

[–]jjdub7TERF (Trans Exterminating Reactionary Fascist) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Similar calls for LGB to join false, totally-unaligned coalitions from everyone's favorite Black Supremacist, Tariq Nasheed https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1272560999665549314

Nor do we (LGB, black white or otherwise) owe Black people any assistance in imposing reparations on the American citizenry. That shit, too, has literally nothing to do with the issues LGB people face unless you're a disciple of the Church of Intersectionality.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He (inadvertently) points out exactly why the recent employment discrimination Supreme Court case was so poorly reasoned. Instead of anti-gay and anti-trans discrimination being added to the Civil Rights act by an amendment, Gorsuch's reasoning makes them both subsets of sexism. Which, imo, they are not in any way.

[–]jjdub7TERF (Trans Exterminating Reactionary Fascist) 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh for sureee, the SCOTUS essentially grasped so hard at straws that they accidentally legislated. Even more bizarre was that Gorsuch (Trump's first appointee) penned the majority position. w/e, can't complain I guess.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are building Martha and Sylvia in nyc

[–]materialrealityplz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Marsha even knew he was a 'boy'. :P

https://youtu.be/Bo0nYv9QIj4?t=2081