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[–]GizortnikKiA Old Guard 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

His 'normie' logic really spills out.

"Spreading such misinformation that Facebook had to remove it". You can't use Facebook as an arbiter of fucking truth.

Truth is, I'm okay with Epoch Times in confronting Communist propaganda in the same way that Radio Free Europe can confront Russian Propaganda, and RT can confront American propaganda. There is no objective truth that can be found within journalism, you just have no other choice but to have a competitive news diet.

[–][deleted] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

True, but you can't deny the basic gist of what he's saying that the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Just look at how Afghanistan turned out for the Americans.

[–]GizortnikKiA Old Guard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I don't deny that at all.

But what I'm saying is that you can't rely on Arbiter's of Truth, let alone Facebook to function as one. I know Radio Free Europe is CIA propaganda, it also has more honest converge than a lot of shit in Europe. Getting at truth requires you to dig through malicious sources, because if a malicious source can any amount of truth that supports their narrative, they'll seize it. The Nazis were habitual liars, but they weren't lying when they were pointing out the Katyn massacre. In fact, lying about it would have been detrimental to their larger narrative in that specific case.

Avoid believing narratives, but sometimes even the worst and most unreliable people will tell you the truth if it benefits them.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like my fellow Canadian, J.J., but I certainly don't agree with his politics and many of his ideas - and I'm skeptical about some of his research. I also am hella skeptical about the Edge Of Wonder channel he dismisses, yet mentions, thus promotes.

This is a great introductory video on the topic, but take with a grain of source, and find others to also round out your views on it.

I'm gonna watch The Truth About Falun Gong now.

[–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting.. it did end up being informative.. I almost stopped watching early on though. His rushed and highly edited style is tough to listen to. Don't know why some people have a problem with the occasional pause. I bet this guy listens to podcasts at 1.5 speed.

on a side note... its hard not to visualize these guys as being a character in illuminatus. Of course reality being weird is hardly a new concept.