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[–]ClockworkFoolKiA Old Guard 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I can't help but be reminded of a video I saw a few weeks ago on a similar topic, Blaire White talking with someone who was both detransitioning and regretted transitioning in the first place.

Perhaps worth a watch

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's hardly surprising that there's more of them. I suspect that the number of people regretting their transition will only keep increasing as more and more children and teens are allowed to make these kinds of life changing decisions.

[–]ClockworkFoolKiA Old Guard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really does seem to be a growing thing, with the idea that it's forbidden to even talk about kind of falling away a little in recent months. While searching for that vid, I even saw something about a newsnight segment (or something like that) talking about the topic.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They also don't investigate the mental health of people before they poison them with "anti"depressants.

Sometimes life's circumstances are shitty and a "happy pill" can't cure it - or will make it MUCH worse. And they certainly don't warn you enough about it - "Just wait, have faith, and see if it starts working" when clearly you're going down.

[–]ZackRoyerOption 4 Alum 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hey but that might benefit men and we don't want that. /s

[–]PatreonSaidIt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Not just happy-pills. The stuff they're feeding kids with ADHD (or, what we used to call 'a need to get out and get some healthy exercise') is enough to put a grown man in jail if they were selling it on the streets.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sad but true.

IMO, the only way to properly use Dexedrine and all those meth-like drugs is in small short "abuses" with long spans between. "Regular" daily doses are for shit and simple addict you - and don't give any relief.

[–]danuker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I am happy she has the courage to take on the state.

Lawmakers seem all too happy to experiment with the delicate balance between ability to consent of a minor and difficulty of gender change. mistaken - see tabletopGamingFan's comment

An adult would be expected to make decisions and live with whatever the outcome. But we deny minors the ability to consent for a reason.

[–]tabletobGamingFan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lawmakers seem all too happy to experiment with the delicate balance between ability to consent of a minor and difficulty of gender change.

did any lawmakers actually experiment yet?

afaik, all countries where law even touched this issue, it was only activist judges, stretching some other legal precedents over this new niche, that made any decisions.

[–]danuker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Huh, I can't find any. I was mistaken.

All I could find is mandating tolerance and awareness of LGBTQ issues: Canada.

I could have sworn I had seen something like that, but it was probably just case law, as you say.

[–]tabletobGamingFan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

fuck... this is kind of close to home for me and was completely unaware despite trying to keep an eye on such changes.

In Canada we did have a case recently where a dad was gagged by the court from even speaking about his kid being put on hormone treatments by the mother after the divorce.

The news here memory hole such events pretty tight. 99% of the public completely unaware of any of these cases aside from how "trans people targeted by bigots constantly". on reddit, r canada has been deleting any post on the topic for several years now.

my only hope at this point is that these native train blockades that nearly crippled our economy for 2 weeks, might have given the local conservatives a chance to take the federal government in next election. Right now Canada is completely dominated by left wing parties.

[–]Soup_Navy_Admiral 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A little something from a name the old school gamers might recognize:

Special Note to Those Thinking About a Sex Change, by Danielle Berry

(Compiled from a number of emails I sent in response to requests for input from those considering their own change.)

Don't do it! That's my advice. This is the most awful, most expensive, most painful, most disruptive thing you could ever do. Don't do it unless there is no other alternative. You may think your life is tough but unless it's a choice between suicide and a sex-change it will only get worse. And the costs keep coming. You lose control over most aspects of your life, become a second class citizen and all so you can wear women's clothes and feel cuter than you do now. Don't do it is all I've got to say.

That's advice I wish someone had given me. I had the sex change, I "pass" fine, my career is good but you can't imagine the number of times I've wished I could go back and see if there was another way. Despite following the rules and being as honest as I could with the medical folks at each stage, nobody stopped me and said "Are you honest to God absolutely sure this is the ONLY path for you?!" To the contrary, the voices were all cheerfully supportive of my decision. I was fortunate that the web didn't exist then - there are too damn many cheerleaders ready to reassure themselves of their own decision by parading their "successful" surgeries and encouraging others.

I can speak the transgender party line that I was a female trapped in a male body and I remember feeling this way since I was 4. But, it's never that easy if you look at it sincerely and without preconception. There's little question that a mid-life crisis, a divorce and a cancer scare were involved in at least the timing of my sex-change decision. To be completely honest at this point (3 yrs post-op) is not easy, however, I'm not sure I would do it again. I'm now concerned that much of what I took as a gender dysfunction might have been nothing more than a neurotic sexual obsession. I was a cross-dresser for all of my sexual life and had always fantasized going fem as an ultimate turn-on. Ironically, when I began hormone treatment my libido went away. However, I mistook that relief from sexual obsession for validation of my gender change. Then in the final bit of irony, after surgery my new genitals were non-orgasmic (like 80% of my TG sisters).

So, needless to say, my life as a woman is not an ultimate turn-on. And what did it all cost? Over $30,000 and the loss of most of my relationships to family and friends. And the costs don't end. Every relationship I make now and in the future has to come to terms with the sex-change. And I'm not the only one who suffers. I hate the impact this will have on my kids and their future.

Anyway, I'm making it sound awful and it's not. There are some perks but the important things like being comfortable with myself and having a true love in my life don't seem like they were contingent on the change. Being my "real self" could have included having a penis and including more femininity in whatever forms made sense. I didn't know that until too late and now I have to make the best of the life I've stumbled into. I just wish I would have tried more options before I jumped off the precipice. I miss my easy access to my kids (unlike many TS's I didn't completely lose access to them though), I miss my family and old friends (I know they "shouldn't" have abandoned me but lots of folks aren't as open minded as they "should" be ... I still miss them) and finally, I hate the disconnect with my past (there's just no way to integrate the two unrelated lives). There's any number of ways to express your gender and sexuality and the only one I tried was the big one. I'll never know if I could have found a compromise that might have worked a lot better than the "one size fits all" sex-change. Please, check it out yourself before you do likewise.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110725030149/http://www.anticlockwise.com/dani/personal/changes/dont.htm

[–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Mental health awareness in the UK is poor, if you are suicidal they will pretty much pretend it's not as bad as it really is and hope that you don't kill yourself. If you suffer from shit mental health and you can't afford a private doctor then you pretty much have to fight tooth and nail if you actually want help. I've been lied to and denied access to help from my doctor multiple times, I've been given referrals to counsellors instead of pyschiatrists even though you don't even need a referral to a counsellor. If you're older, then they'll pretty much hand out medication like candy. They don't want to help you, they pretty much just want to fuck you off as soon as possible so that they can deal with the next patient. Most doctors are shite and the NHS is under funded. They don't "carry out proper investigations" into your mental health because they simply don't care/have the funding.

I knew somebody that transitioned, later regretted it and ended up killing themselves at 28. I actually know 3 people that did this.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's because if you question their feelings the whole world turns against you. You reap what you sow.

[–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they feel they can't question how a person is feeling because of social backlash then they shouldn't be working those jobs, otherwise it gets critical. Especially if it comes down to castrating a patient's cock off. Most people that advocate for mental health only advocate for trans/minorities really. I agree with you to some extent. There seems to be way too much emphasis on this trans shit and transitioning.