ChatGPT and the Dawn of Computerized Hyper-Intelligence | Brian Roemmele | EP 357 (1:59:17) ~ Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting reference to The Diamond Age, a book of which I can't recommend enough as it's stuck in my mind decades later. I'm also happy to see they've developed other ideas about life, consciousness, and the development of A.I. that I've already come up with as well. For example, humans are motivated by suffering that A.I. won't ever experience - but can simulate and thus prioritize its processes.

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There’s something off about Peterson.

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I have liked his "clean your room" and "take responsibility" ideas, but many things seemed utterly short-sighted to me, such as his take on "hierarchies of competence". This video shows that politically, Jordan Peterson may be more dangerous than many of us thought­.

Jordan Peterson Event Cancelation FAILED in Ottawa & Announcement Made on Joe Rogan (14:07) ~ Clyde Do Something by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Controlled opposition or authentic solution?

Joe Rogan: I Can't Believe What is Happening to Jordan Peterson... (6:35) ~ MotivHolic by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Best case? He fights it publicly and wins.

Dr. Jordan Peterson to Undergo Re-Education Training or Lose Clinical License in Canada (10:44) ~ Clyde Do Something by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Maxime Mernier is a political limited hangout to control the fringe - just as Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk are.

"I'm only anonymous so I can continue to do good." Excuse my skepticism, sunshine. It's just not likely that you're that good... ~ Dr Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Like anything, there are those who have valid reasons and those who abuse systems, including anonymity and the lack of creative solutions.

"I'm only anonymous so I can continue to do good." Excuse my skepticism, sunshine. It's just not likely that you're that good... ~ Dr Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

[–]Drewski 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What's the context here, is he replying to someone?

Edit: found it: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1600311826893316096

Many trolls claim that anonymity protects their "free speech." In my experience, which is extensive, anonymity enables psychopathy far more than it frees invisible heroes. Contemptible cowards comprise the overwhelming majority...

Strongly disagree with Dr. Peterson here. The right to remain anonymous is crucial to free and open communication, especially in totalitarian states where you can be jailed for speaking out. The risk of being shunned, cancelled or fired from your job has also silenced many others, something I'd think Peterson himself would understand.

"I'm only anonymous so I can continue to do good." Excuse my skepticism, sunshine. It's just not likely that you're that good... ~ Dr Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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He'll soon be pushing for mandatory digital IDs.

He's a stooge for helping to criminalize privacy.

"I'm only anonymous so I can continue to do good." Excuse my skepticism, sunshine. It's just not likely that you're that good... ~ Dr Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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I bet he was crying when he tweeted that.

Why women go for pirates and vampires by jet199 in JordanPeterson

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This one dosent get old.

D-I-E must DIE (18:08) ~ Jordan B Peterson by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Can't argue with this dude. He's right and if you have working neurons, you know it.

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! (15:02) ~ TheQuartering [Jews vs Jews = distraction drama] by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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I'm not even subscribed to TheQuartering or Tim Pool but I keep getting their shit recommended to me, along with other channels hosted by "rebellious" controlled narrative Jews - like Viva Frei, who I like, subscribe to, but I know is a limited hangout who intentionally won't recognize the (((globalist/Zionist power))) above the banksters, markets, corporations, media, and governments. "I don't understand, I can't see any (((patterns))) for all this chaos."

Also, I'm getting endless under 3 minute TikTok-ish shit recommended. This makes it easier for me to reject YouTube.

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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I wonder about both

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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I think it's called "parasocial engagement" or something like that. People feel youtubers are their friends. Even though they're not. They're people with empty, pathetic lives and watching a youtuber is the closest to a friend they're gonna get.

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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okay, that's first mover advantage. it just doesn't seem very entertaining.

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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h3h3 been around for a while

Ethan Klein DESTROYED By Jordan Peterson After Trying To Cancel Him! by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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How the fuck is Klein even popular? First mover advantage?

How we uncancelled Jordan Peterson by jet199 in JordanPeterson

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Yes, we can actually go to jail for mis-pronoun-ing utterly demented people. Because, you know, IT DAMAGES THEM. Same as kicking their teeth out...

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Men with no decent father present, more like, if I may... Some fathers aren't worth having at home... ;-)

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Men with absent fathers mostly.

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In Canada they brought in a law to force people to say chosen pronouns.

He's one of the few people who spoke against it.

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Because he is wise and conservative, because he speaks well and brings meaning to life for many people.

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Why is he famous?

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A wise, conservative psychologist.

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[–]Rob3122 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Who the fuck is this guy? I keep seeing his name pop up lately

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Back in the 1970's and 1980's I got laid all the time and we didn't even have the internet or cell phones back then. You kids are pathetic. Do you have any idea how hot it is to meet a girl and be inside her in within 4 minutes and she comes hard within 8 minutes? Get off the fucking phone and hit the gym. Girls are suckers for muscles. Why do you think they are always fucking Chads?

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I'll watch this later

This Is The Reason Leftists Hate Jordan Peterson...#Shorts by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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I love the intentional misquotes that float around the Reddit outrage mob without challenge.

Jordan Peterson goes to Burger King at 3AM. by forgottenpasswordguy in JordanPeterson

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Fucking brilliant. And really well-done, too.

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This is hilarious.

Jordan Peterson goes to Burger King at 3AM. by forgottenpasswordguy in JordanPeterson

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Hock up a loogie for his whopper. He deserves it.

I wrote a book 👀 (9:01) ~ Lindsay Shepherd by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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" My pronouns are A Wrinkle in Time / A Wind In The Door. "

I wrote a book 👀 (9:01) ~ Lindsay Shepherd by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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The video you've linked is 'private' and unaccessible.

Drag.

Edit: perhaps one of these?: https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=pronouns

Definitely not. That's SJW drama.

Take your pick:
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=Lindsay%20Shepherd

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Thanks for the info. I've read through items at the links and have checked some of those items.

The video you've linked is 'private' and unaccessible. If it were limited to Canadians, I could link via VPN.

Edit: perhaps one of these?: https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=pronouns&kind=video

I wrote a book 👀 (9:01) ~ Lindsay Shepherd by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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I wrote a book 👀 (9:01) ~ Lindsay Shepherd by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Anyone have the: "five-minute clip about pronouns"?

For Our Own Good, We All Need a Glimpse of the Evil Queen. Excerpted from Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life by Jordan B. Peterson. by Chipit in JordanPeterson

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That was quite valuable, thank you. Like many other people, I've encountered Jordan Peterson facing his enemies, and heard him talk about the general energies of his study. This was a new aspect: the man himself in the pursuit of his own clarity, through the support and the needs of his counseling client. I'm not likely to buy the book, but I appreciate this demonstration of the attitude he takes when he's not having to arm-wrestle with someone who wants to vilify him. All that resistance he experiences! I think it says far more about the limitations of his decriers than it does about him. Is this the book that caused some of the staff of Penguin to quit in tears and pain? Histrionic bullshit, methinks.

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The tmp.ninja link is dead.

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[–]Nwabudike_Morgan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a friend who wants to download this but the magnet link has yet to find the torrent or peers. He says he will keep the magnet link running for the next few days.

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Finally managed to bypass the shadowban on and get it up on ugh reddit too: https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/i89bie/project_jbparchive/

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No, it was reddit shadow banning my account. I finally managed to bypass it, see my other comment here.

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Mods deleted from r/JordanPeterson?

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Are his videos loaded onto thinkspot? I havent gotten around to checking it out as much as I should.

I'd imagine he has copies of everything and wouldn't let them just disappear.

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FWIW I attempted to post this on Reddit and the mods deleted it. Please spread the word so we can get a few more people backing this up.

Dr. Jordan Peterson | Is Neo-Marxism on the rise? by sproketboy in JordanPeterson

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To anyone interested in more of this issue, which is super relevant today. I'd recommend checking out James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. James runs a website newdiscourses.com and Helen runs Areo Magazine online. Both have read quite a bit on the subject and layout the post modern, marxists and neo-Marxist roots. Many criticize Peterson for his shallow take on the subject. Really he is right, but he isnt very precise or definitive on the subject.

It really isn't a mystery why a lot of men are the way they are today. by calmbluejay in JordanPeterson

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Coming from a man drugged up on benzodrene.... Fuck that idiot! And anyone who buys his quack bullshit.

JBP is back! The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast #9 by sproketboy in JordanPeterson

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Happy to see him looking reasonably well and I send my wishes for a full recovery.

JBP is back! The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast #9 by sproketboy in JordanPeterson

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I was hoping he would talk more about what's in store for the future, but at least he is doing a little better

JBP is back! The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast #9 by sproketboy in JordanPeterson

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I think Mr Peterson is awful bullshitter but I'm glad he a making a good recovery, he is still one of the stronger commentators the right has to offer.

Jordan Peterson: The activists are now stalking the hard scientists by sproketboy in JordanPeterson

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commies don't accept neutrality, either you are supporting the glorious revolution or you are the enemy

there is no "just wanting to play videogames" anymore, the choice you have is if you are ready for the fight or if you aren't

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[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is an idiotic mess of out of context quotes. Nice try.

Jordan Peterson's health was terrible, but he's getting better. by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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I know, but what bothers you about it? I'm just curious.

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[–]freakyfriday 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

well its just looks like, i dont say that for a fact.

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Wisdom

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Creepy masks are in every shrinks office, no?

Actually, the large mask on his left is Pacific NorthWest First Nations. I am a huge fan of their art and culture. I have like 80 books on their totem poles and art alone. (It was a phase before the internet.) In 2004 I actually declined to direct on an animated series of their legends for Nat Geo and the Aboriginal Channel because I didn't feel it was authentic enough (may have been a career mistake, maybe not). That large mask's eyes are covered over, and the the original styles have all largely blurred together, generally in a more northern style - as that mask seems to lean toward Haida or K'san - yet the eyes are small though hidden behind the "hair" and might indicate a more Southern nation like the Kwakwaka'wakw or Kwakiutl - or even Nootka.

The other mask is strange to me. It has elements of some traditional NW Pacific culture - the hooked nose and fatter lip disc labret indicate a woman, perhaps an owl-woman. But the lack of other decoration and shape are not familiar, though I'm not an expert on masks or any specific part of their art and culture. Futher the red horns seem like a fake/modern thing.

Both of the masks are using foreign green colours. White/plain wood, black, red, and turquoise were the dominant colours until the Iron Man (their name for the White Man who brought iron) arrived in abundance in the 1800s with new colours and paints. The North and Alaska didn't really embrace the new colours.

Some of my old sketches from 16-20 years ago:
* https://infogalactic.com/info/File:RavenStealsTheSunshine_400x400.png
* https://infogalactic.com/info/File:SunshineHaidaWolf_White_400x400.png
* https://infogalactic.com/info/File:HaidaDancer_400x400.png

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"Redistribution" is a huge overreach.

Not all want redistribution when they simply just want the unfairness to stop.

Boot on face.

Face says, "I want your laces."

OR

Face says, "Fuck off boot."

Otherwise excellent. A+++ Undervoted.

I like the old footage of Ottawa and Toronto (I lived just near a couple scenes).

I wish there was a good way to separate the good from bad Marxism to better discuss it. It would inevitably become corrupted. "Woke" doesn't mean 9/11 anymore. "False flags" means a bad copyright claim on YouTube. Fuck the words (frequently and vigorously, literally and figuratively ).

Jordan Peterson's health was terrible, but he's getting better. by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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Why does it bother you?

How do you know she didn't compose it? (Or collectively with the family - as we did for my Grandfather's eulogy.)

Jordan Peterson's health was terrible, but he's getting better. by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

[–]freakyfriday 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Am I the only one that is bothered that his daughter reads someone else's writed text?

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Wut? Even his main twitter page is full of creepy masks?

He also posts this on his main page: "NOTE: RTs/follows are not to be read unfailingly as endorsements. I sometimes post material with which I do not agree."

Anyway, when you gain the spot-light; all your dirt really shows up. The issue is no one is perfect and we shouldn't expect the "actors" in this kabuki theater to be such. Everyone can find something dirty about anyone if they look for it.

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Investigation does take a lot of time, but there is vested interest to do so. Understanding your enemies is the battle, but the true enemy is the one worth focusing on to win the war. Most people are programmed to swing hard at paper tigers and phantoms created by the elites to divide the herd due to subjective convenience. The real enemies on top of paper tigers, like gravity, disease and ignorance- we barely have the tools or tactics to defeat. The "other" side is only programmed to be so, so that we all face defeat by that same collective enemy: the causal forces of d00m.

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Agreed. And you've got to respect and halfway understand your enemy if you want to stand a chance at beating them. I guess they've got most of us "too busy" to investigate much of anything in detail.

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Yep and even villains are worth questioning, because they might be on the right side of things sometimes.

Le Example

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A very reasonable conclusion to draw. I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I think it's super important to question everyone, especially those who we think of as heroes.

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Somewhat. I saw a little bit of this and can appreciate the objective investigation on Peterson's background and inconsistencies in the message, but the documentary seems to draw those conclusions based on the editor's viewpoint more so. The fact he may have worked with other organizations and received funds from various sources is credible investigation but a channel like this would only seek to support a total dictator cultural warrior that wants to segregate further. Not surprising they disagreed with his message. But appreciate their opposing perspectives!

Jordan Peterson's health was terrible, but he's getting better. by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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I saw a little bit of that, stuff is not what the media portrayed him out to be! These political wind bags play too many sides and are prostitutes for money by big groups, you can't tell who is who

Based on that tho, I would forecast that the future is fascism of some sort- either the left or the right. Or the merging of the two as a new centered power structure, but freedom and (edit: logistics) are up in the air :(

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What do you guys think, valid points?

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I think he's a leftist or maybe moderate tasked with stopping right leaners from "going to far" as evidenced by his own statements. There's an epic video concerning this topic that I'll dig up for you.

So playing a role rather than being yourself takes a toll.

here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WXYuqrO8LLo

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?Neuter? The dude was leaning right throughout his career.

What'chu talking about d3rr?

Edit: Or did you mean it was a hit?

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

lololol

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Trying to neuter the alt right for years on end takes its toll.

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[–]Mnemonic 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The drug was known for over 4 months, this revelation just opened up another can of worms: Russia? As a rich Canadian this is shady as F. Combined with the whole denial of any wrong-doing of JP himself... He abused some stuff alright and covered it up in Russia. Either he abused this drug or something completely different, but going to Russia instead of Canada/USA/Europe for a 'detox' is like going to Thailand for an 'inner journey'.

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[–]Undiscovered 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

She probably had to make it since there were news outlets claiming he was suffering from prescription drug abuse and many assumed an opiate of some kind.

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[–]Mnemonic 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ironic and sad, poor girl clearly doesn't want to make this video, the marketing machine part of his greedy brain seems to be working again.

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[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

wow, that's nuts. I like the guy; seems very grounded; hope he feels better soon.

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[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I would highly recommend Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. It's not political - just a clear explanation of how economics work. I'm a nerd so I got sproketboy nickname from an ex. ;)

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes and no. Cost effective - but at what costs?

A competitor may manufacture in China cheaply, then in the USA no one has jobs to afford the goods. Outsourcing is bad long term economics. Further, that competitor must ship the goods, polluting the Earth, etc. Those goods have no intellectual property protections either (though that's a scam on a whole other level) and could "feed" the competitor's competition who will only deal with Walmart or Amazon and can't ever be beat. If you're trying to make a buck at any expense, then sure, get while you can and fuck everyone else - like a game of Monopoly. Then your forests look like Haiti where no trees remain because everyone needed firewood and no one cared for the commons or community.

So if co-ops were such a great solution they would be more widely used regardless of "promotion" in movies and TV.

I'm not saying they are promoted, rather there is a disturbing Dynamic Silence on the matter. Intentional NON-promotion and suppression. There are an abundance of concepts that are intentionally suppressed by "mainstream" corporate media. You have to admit that a LOT of media and government and corporations lie to us a LOT. Once you admit that, then EVERYTHING is then open for skepticism, analysis, criticism, and triangulation on what you find to be true.

Thanks for the links. I'm skeptical of most economists and "business" experts. All the games are all rigged by the select few in their secret societies, private boardrooms, NGOs, and think tanks. Best selling books to the masses are more often than not selling us something they want us to buy into. You won't find many anarchist, Green, libertarian, or revolutionary books on best seller lists. Nonetheless, those sources are loaded with information, just as Wikipedia is utterly rigged but a good place to go for the "official" narrative on things.

The fundamental issue with Marxism is that everyone has to be on board for it to work which is not going to happen.

Not everyone needs to be on board with worker co-ops - just those in one.

Your statement can apply to many other things - and fall on its face in the same way:

The fundamental issue with Taxes / Obamacare / Endless Wars / Big Goverment is that everyone has to be on board for it to work which is not going to happen. Nonetheless, we have Big Gov and all these other scams.

People can die in capitalist systems but in socialism systems the deaths are by design.

LOL. You don't think it's by design? Seriously? Oops, we killed a few million folks here and a few million there... Accidents were made.

Yes, I actually liked Peterson Bibilical stuff, though dry. He broke it down far better than anyone I'd ever seen as a youth or adult. He's more like Joseph Campbell or a film critic making sense of it. Regardless, I'm still an atheist - but I can appreciate it all in far more depth.

IDW? I agree that Minds is good, but the more decentralized the better IMO. Minds can be shut down. Decentralization can't. When the totalitarian left or totalitarian right blur and merge there will be no difference and there will be no freedom for our minds or Minds.

Is your name inspired by Sprokets? (It was the 1990s Mike Myers' Saturday Night Live series of skits - by far my favourite series on SNL. But my singular favourite skit was called "Bulkan Dirt Diving" circa 1986 or so, which sadly remains absent from YouTube in its entirety.)

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[–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How the hell is that an "authoritarian ideology"?

Because you can make a co-op and then a competitor makes a "normal" business and will out compete you. In a working market system the most cost effective ideas will usually win. So if co-ops were such a great solution they would be more widely used regardless of "promotion" in movies and TV. You might like this book on the subject https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of_Excellence - there's a series as well but I can't find it. Hopefully the entire series will be archived but here's a good episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3agg64LM88

The fundamental issue with Marxism is that everyone has to be on board for it to work which is not going to happen.

Only since 9-11 the USA's war of terror has killed 35 MILLION people

Agreed that the US didn't handle 9-11 properly. Gov is too influenced by the military industrial complex.

Stalin killed 40 million. Mao killed 100 million.

People can die in capitalist systems but in socialism systems the deaths are by design.

And for JBP - yes I wish he wouldn't waste time on yet-more platforms. The IDW types should just get together with minds.com or similar. I would prefer if he continued working on his biblical series.

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wolff admits there are 3 kinds of socialism - and admits that 2 are big and haven't worked historically.

I'm not denying that co-ops can't be done now. You might also wonder why co-ops aren't part of the common vernacular, why they aren't in movies or television or promoted as the solutions they could be.

Further, why aren't they offered as an alternative, like in Italy, to unemployment and/or welfare?

Capitalists don't want co-ops to exist or be promoted. "They" don't want power in the hands of the people. "They" don't want fair wages and investments and community control.

Now you're the one leaping to conclusions, and that's a mighty HUGE leap from "no one is stopping you" to "forcing everyone to be in a co-op" - without so much as an explanation how this "is the inevitable outcome of this authoritarian ideology". Co-oops aren't defined and each one is custom and unique to it's self-determined purpose. How the hell is that an "authoritarian ideology"?

You are mistaking the 3rd small socialism for the first 2 types of socialism in Big Gov. Regardless how capitalist or socialist or communist the Big Gov is, all Big Gov is evil. Only since 9-11 the USA's war of terror has killed 35 MILLION people. That's no small thing. Stalin killed 40 million. Mao killed 100 million. Big Gov turns all suffering into statistics for more control.

No one is talking about utopias or eggs. And I'm not even talking about taking sides in the Hegelian dialectic of Left vs Right or Capitalism vs Communism. I'm only interested in promoting critical analysis, alternatives, and solutions.

If Peterson is too afraid his pathetic economic ideas will be punched full of holes by a Marxist professor then that's on him. Peterson has some terrific ideas and a great platform that could help countless people much more - but he is part of the dialectic and plays his part as a limited hangout. He can't even admit 9-11 was a great big lie.

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[–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wolff comes down to one thing - Co-ops. Except you can create co-ops now. No one is stopping you. Go ahead.

The problems come from forcing everyone to be in a co-op which is the inevitable outcome of this authoritarian ideology. You can't escape it. Go spend some time with the Venezuelans, the Uyghurs, the Cubans, the Ukrainians, the Romanians, the Russians, etc, etc.. and ask them how well this worked out for them. But I guess you can't create a "utopia" without breaking a few eggs, right?

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Really? Is that the best you've got to offer?

Throwing rational discourse out the window for nothing but kneejerk simple minded tropes and insults? It's clear you're a devote of Peterson. Sad. Bigly.

How about debating these concepts critically on their merits and faults?

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He doesn't even need to "debate" Wolff, but merely have a civilized conversation. Wolff is an expert on Marxism where as Peterson has a lot of shit to say about Marxism and most of it is utterly wrong - so Peterson in this regard, and many many others, is full of utter shit and spouting nonsense propaganda.

Wolff is very well aware of all the problems of the variant communisms. "Social manipulation and integration" and "corruption and infiltration" are hardly exclusive to the left or Marxists. They are aspects of Big Gov and if you knew much about Wolff, you'd know he's pushing for the 3rd Marxist ideal (as I do), worker coops as a solution for individuals and as an alternative to battle against the corporatocracy.

Big Gov is slavery regardless of whether you are a capitalist forced to pay taxes or a communist forced to pay taxes. Same shit with just a different organization at the top. If you aren't a multi-millionaire then you have absolutely nothing to worry about regarding "redistribution". Further, when he discusses redistribution, he's not talking about taking away wealth so much as simply addressing the means of production, starting with fair wages rather than exploitative.

You clearly don't understand Wolff nor Marxism either.

If Peterson's intellectual explorations are not open to criticism they cease to be legitimate.

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[–]critias 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He probably doesn't want a gongshow like these open platforms/publishers. People with very limited education and big mouths.

"thinkSPOT is an offsite meeting space for your planning sessions, continuing education classes, seminars, lunch and learns, and much more."

So it's not. It's for a bunch of private and public things. And yes he's trying to make money but who cares?

Why should he debate Richard Wolff and what does that have to do with his own private platform?

Richard Wolff is a tool. Just another, "that wasn't real communism" derper. He's the result of turning our backs on education of history and culture towards social manipulation and integration. He's what we get when high education has been corrupted and infiltrated towards corrupting the state as a whole. He's a fanatic. He's got a grudge. He believes that capitalism is slavery but he's pro-Marxist which states from everyone according to his abilities, to everyone according to their needs. Which is redistribution of wealth which is slavery verbatim. He completely dismisses the mass-death of communism.

As Peterson said, "They don't like the poor, they just hate the rich."

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not really. He's just creating another echo chamber bubble. If he debates professor Richard Wolff and others that might challenge him, then I might reconsider.

The Ghost of a Joke (Peterson vs. Zizek After Action Quick Take) ~ The Distributist by JasonCarswell in JordanPeterson

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If Peterson, or Zizek for that matter, wanted a serious Marxist discussion they should debate prof Richard D. Wolff.

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I don't mind if you post it again. It needs to be out there and it was months ago I think.

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What a great video. I just came across this and was going to post it.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Guy is a suck up for Israel

Given that nonsense and junk science have so thoroughly defeated science and common sense, and now rule with an iron fist, then how could science ever triumph again? by JimAtEOI in JordanPeterson

[–]Celica_GT4_ST205 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s a good idea honestly...I’m thinking garbage ideas like Peterson’s or I am a Petersonian.

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[–]stardestroyer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mainstream US news has always been vacuous and demeaning.. now it's gotten even worse, approaching tabloid levels of dignity. You have to dig deeper and practice some critical thought. Scientific method is not going anywhere..