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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I don't see many Jesuits in Congress pushing for pro-Israeli bills.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I think it will come as no surprise for most readers that Trump attended Fordham University, a Jesuit school. Clinton graduated from Georgetown U, another Jesuit school. In fact, you don't see too many Jesuits at all since they get others to do the work and take the blame for them. If you prefer to blame the Jews, that is exactly what the Jesuits want you to do. Jesuits "put" Jews in important positions so the Jews get the blame and divert attention away from the Jesuits' power.

As I said in the comments, this is an alternative view, so if you don't buy it, fine but everything is not always as it seems, especially when Jesuits or those who work for them are involved.

Here are some other graduates of Georgetown University: President Lyndon Baines Johnson, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Three current elected heads of state are alumni: Iván Duque Márquez, President of Colombia, Saad Hariri, Prime Minister of Lebanon and Željko Komšić of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Other world leaders include Laura Chinchilla of Costa Rica, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo of the Philippines, Alfredo Cristiani of El Salvador, and Dalia Grybauskaitė of Lithuania, who completed a six-month program in 1992. King Felipe VI of Spain, King Abdullah II of Jordan and his son Hussein, Crown Prince of Jordan, Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg, Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud of the Saudi Arabia royal family, Princess Noor Pahlavi of Iran, and Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece are among the royals who attended Georgetown.

Seven alumni serve in the United States Senate, and twenty-one in the House of Representatives. Current congressional alumni include Dick Durbin, Senate minority whip, and Steny Hoyer, House majority leader. On the U.S. Supreme Court, alumni include former Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and former Chief Justice Edward Douglass White. Members of the current Trump Administration include U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford, and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney. Members of the former Obama Administration cabinet include Treasury Secretary Jack Lew who graduated from the law school in 1983 and White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough who received his master's degree in 1996. Besides numerous members of the senior diplomatic corps, graduates have also headed military organizations on both the domestic and international level, such as former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former National Security Advisor General James L. Jones.

Notable alumni in business include Mary Callahan Erdoes, CEO of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, Patricia Russo, former Alcatel-Lucent CEO, Jennifer Fonstad, founding partner of Aspect Ventures, William J. Doyle of the Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan, Ted Leonsis, former America Online executive, and Ann Sarnoff, CEO of Warner Bros. Savannah Guthrie, current co-anchor of the Today Show is a graduate of the Law School. And Bradley Cooper.

Damn, even I'm impressed by that wiki copy-pasta. Not many schools, or possibly none, can boast that many alumni of influence or in government. I am not saying that all these people are Jesuits but by attending Georgetown they were influenced by Jesuits and those that showed promise might have been recruited to cooperate with Jesuits in their later lives.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The "secret oath" isn't secret. It also isn't used, since 1974. The oath you linked is a hoax. Why should I trust a no named website with zero sources. We do know the Jesuits is a small organization. We also know that the Catholic Church was at odds with the Jesuits for hundreds of years. We also know the Jesuits were Jewish conversos. Many converted to hide their Jewish faith. We now know the Jesuits have hijacked the Catholic church. Pope Francis, a Jesuit has reformed traditional scripture substituting it with a humanist, futurist approach. This was after Vatican 2 when Jews and communists infiltrated the Church. Just like they've done with the evangelical denominations.

If you want to know the truth: Go to the Library of Congress Catalog Record, do a basic search. I would direct link you, but it would just show up session timed out. So at the basic search type in Knights of Columbus vs. criminal libel and malicious bigotry.

This permalink might work: http://lccn.loc.gov/17022557 Call number: HS1538.C74 A4

Or here:

https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=17022557&searchType=1&permalink=y

Time Magazine

Great & Fake Oath (Note: 2 pages hit the next button to see the real oath.)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,928041,00.html

The Jesuit Oath Debunked

http://www.geocities.com/okc_catholic/articles/jesuit_oath.html

Also take note there are several versions circulating the net.

People really believe this Jesuit Oath as gospel truth.

“Blunders and Forgeries: Historical Essays” available to read online at the link above. Robert Ware

https://archive.org/stream/blundersforgerie00brid#page/208/mode/2up

The following sums it up in our opinion:

Ware’s most notable forgeries were “The Jesuit Oath” and “Foxes and Firebrands.” The former is sort of like “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” in that it falsely constructs a sort of manifesto of the Jesuits, describing their intention to “wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals…to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth” and that it is still used to condemn Catholics today.

we must understand that even if these oaths and protocols are forgeries we can judge these societies and the people within them by the fruit they produce.

The Jesuits' relationship to the Vatican has been completely reversed since 1967. The relationship between the Papacy and the Jesuits has been checkered throughout the last 350 years, but since Vatican II the Jesuits have become a force in opposition to the so-called "traditionalists" position in the RCC. When founded by Ignatius of Loyala, it was the driving force behind the RCC "Counter-Reformation," and the oath like the one you cite, we can only imagine was operational and enforced. Now, the Jesuits constitute the most powerful force for liberalism in the RCC.

Two books are helpful in understanding this transformation over the centuries. The first is written by a French historian, with no particular ax to grind: Jean Lacounture, Jesuits: A Multibiography (Washington: Counterpoint, 1995). The second is written by an ex-Jesuit and vocal defender of RC traditionalism, Malachi Martin, The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayl of the Roman Catholic Church (NY: Touchstone Books, 1987). Bob. [Schaibley]

P.S. If you're looking for a source of pro-papal subversiveness inside (and perhaps also outside) the RCC, look to the organization called "Opus Dei." They comprise, today, what the Jesuits were about in the Counter-Reformation.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

That oath, as linked, was read into the US Congressional Record as an attempt to stop the Federal Reserve, which was later controlled by Jesuits, from getting started. Indeed the core of the Jesuits is fairly small but they wield a lot of power. They are part of the Deep State. I appreciate your links but that info can also be falsified

The Deep State is, at least in part, made up of Jesuits, the CIA and FBI (both started by Knights of Malta people: Bill Donovan and J. Edna Hoover), the Black Nobility (old Italian monied families, now called the Mob), the Committee of 300 (who ran the East India Company and addicted millions of Chinese to opium), and more recently the US Military-Industrial Complex and the Bilderbergs, all using Rothschild banking. I left out mercenary groups who are the usual suspects.

To put it simply: Jesuits control the Vatican and that alone is a huge business. There are 1.3 billion Catholics.

The Vatican cut off the Jesuits for 41 years. Three years after being cut off, the Jesuits started the Illuminati in 1776 to continue their work under a different name. Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit. The Jesuits imprisoned the pope and after five years the pope reinstated the Jesuits in 1814. They started the American Revolution and the French Revolution, then backed Napoleon who openly warned against the Jesuits, saying they were power-mad. The Jesuits are a small, vengeful group that infiltrates other organizations.

What is your agenda? Do you want to say that Jews are responsible for all these wars that go back well before Zionism was conceived?

You are using Time Magazine as a source?! If you are the Deep State you can create and edit sources as you wish.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, I looked into this Alan Lamont, that is in the title of your post. He seems like a shill. He claims the Jesuits control everything but provides zero sources. He basis his argument on the Jesuit oath forgery, and he claims Jews are not the problem. Could it be certain subjects who identify as Jews? No, he says. He's also a flat earther and supports the disinfoist Ratzinger, a Jew. Being a flat earther proves your a shill. He also claims Bush had nothing to do with 9/11 and skull and bones is nothing. Yeah, you know PNAC and the various think tank documents calling for a new pearl harbor, Jeb Bush being a signee. But no, it's the Jesuits, not anybody Jewish, not the Bush's and also flat earth is real, hmmmmmm.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Backpedalling, if you want to call it that: I agree that flat-earth is total nonsense. I also think that one source of our disagreement is the fact that all sorts of shills exist in perhaps all the groups we are talking about so there will be conflicting sources wherever we look.

I had considered that Lamont might be a shill and I think in the comments under his Jews Do Not Run America, I said that this was an alternative theory and I could not attest to its truthfulness. Hedge.

You are surely good at research.

Do you have a copy of the Oath in e-form? Or if you have a link to the oath you think is the correct one, that would be fine. I'd like to compare it to other forms of the Oath that are on the Internet.

The following is from this link: https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/pope-francis-first-jesuit-pope-jesuit-extreme-oath-of-induction/

This oath is taken from the book Subterranean Rome by Carlos Didier, translated from the French and published in New York in 1843. Dr. Alberto Rivera escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, and he describes his Jesuit oath in exactly the same way as it appears in this book. Semper idem: always the same.

The Jesuit Oath of Induction is also recorded in the Congressional Record of the U.S. (House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, Feb. 15, 1913, pp. 3215-3216).


Another source, I will try to find, says that the Oath was stricken from the Congressional Record.

You have probably run across the name Alberto Ribera who supposedly fled from the Jesuit Order. I believe he is/was Cuban, or at least has what to me sounds like a Cuban accent.

Peace. And good work.

There is a drawing of Ribera on the link above and strangely he looks a bit like Jeffry Epstein. :)

Whether he is a shill as well, I am not sure.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I found the origins of the oath in a book. I'll post tomorrow. It is quite interesting.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good. I am done for today. Very educational talking to you.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used the US congress report as a source, which shows that it isn't the oath that that website you sourced writes.

You're making a lot of assumptions without sources. And then you attack one of my sources, and disregard everything else I wrote. Obviously, TIME mag. is corrupt that's why I linked other sources debunking this oath.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't falsify anything. The oath you linked is not what is in the US congress record that I linked. Stop with the Trump, Alex Jones, Pienznik, Robert Steel, Qanon deep staye psyop. It doesn't exist. The entire state is in on it.

The Jesuits are mostly futurists and crypto-Jews, that's a fact, them wanting to hijack catholicism makes perfect sense to me considering Judaism and Christianity have been at odds with each other for a thousand years. Though, I wouldn't call Catholicism and the crusades christian like.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The deep state doesn't exist. The deep state was created so that people would think the system as a whole, the state, is still in their beat interests.

They are all in it together, media and all. The deep state retoric is just another psyop. My belief of course.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The oath, is a hoax. It doesn't exist in US congressional record as the oath you posted. That's what I'm trying to get at. I linked the source in one of my posts. Stop attacking the messenger.

Did thrr Jesuits start the illuminati? Zionism origins started in the 19th centory and Talmudism has existed before Christ.

I think it isn't Jews per day, such as Orthodox rabbis but we cannot deny thr many Jews who front these secret societies and societal transformations. Jesus says they disguise themselves as Jews but they are not. Indicating they pretend to be Jews.