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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

But I already showed how the Jesuits themselves were involved in Frankism. Either way, It's just my take on it don't think too much about it. It's just IMO, another part of the long history of the Jesuits of using the Jews as deflector shields.

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involved does not equal control. involved does not equal your scapegoat deflector theory being true.

What I never get out of you folks that have your minds made up already, is where and when Jesuits and Zionists have collaborated and not collaborated. You never discuss these two groups as being potentially equally nefarious. Why is that?

We see potential collaboration here in this post, and with the Israel-Holy See-State agreement, and with the Vatican Rothschild banking relationship. Why must you paint this collaboration as a master/slave arrangement?

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Because you have to understand the Jesuits philosophically first in order to know the way they see the Jews. They are obsessed with bringing the Third Age of Joachim, which is the perfect communism that was foreshadowed in their movements in Latin America and such, they see everything material as a corruption and they can't stand the Jews for being a nationalist and materialist group that is always out for itself. You guys make the mistake of thinking that they are similar, but they are almost complete opposites.

The Roths being Ultra-Zionist Jews is a myth, the Jesuits hate the Jews so much that they intentionally, purposely, used the Roths in order to get as much of them as possible and set up the Bolshevik revolution. This is the way I explain things like the high amount of them in the congress or whatever, they are most likely like the Roths or the Bolsheviks, groups of traitor Jews, the opposite of a Zionist.

Listen to me /u/d3rr, the Jesuits literally made a multi-million dollar movement in order to place the Jews in positions of power to make people hate them. They aren't interested in giving the Jews a holy land they want to assimilate mankind with technology.

Listen, the CIA, is an anti-Semitic organization. And don't mistake me for a Jew defender. I'm not even all that fond of them myself to the point of making racist jokes against them. But by following most anti-Semitic theories, most of you guys aren't actually opposing the government in any meaninful way and are actually helping the CIA itself. That's why I sometimes lose my shit and can't deal with stuff over here at times.

The moment we start focusing on actual, counter-intelligence work and overall start seeing the Vatican as the big bad, that's when the CIA goons start getting scared shitless. I know this may not please you dude, but, I'm doing my best to defend my view. I wouldn't lie to you intentionally in any way or do something to harm Saidit.

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The Roths being Ultra-Zionist Jews is a myth

This is patently absurd! They founded and funded and built much of Israel.

Listen, the CIA, is an anti-Semitic organization

I'm with you on this point, certainly during its first few decades

But by following most anti-Semitic theories...

You are assuming a lot here. Many on this site, including myself, are willing to argue "not all Jews", and that half or more of Zionists worldwide are not even Jews*

and overall start seeing the Vatican as the big bad, that's when the CIA goons start getting scared shitless

Why can't we see political Zionism as also being big bad?

know this may not please you dude, but, I'm doing my best to defend my view

Please do man. This has been a decent discussion.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No It's not dude. The Vatican literally used the own money of the Rothschilds in order to spread the anti-Semitic myths, despite the protests of their own people. The same way the Bolsheviks get sold out as being Ultra-Zionist lunatics despite actually being an anti-Zionist group. Or Marx being a self-hating Jew.

Please dude. When you fall for the Ultra-Zionist and world domination stories, you are helping the CIA, not opposing them. The endgoal of the NWO is the Omega Point. If we are to stop it, we have to at least set up a decent counter-intelligence site in a significant amount of time before the Omega Point hits. There is a time limit to this shit and the CIA has an insane advantage over us.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It's not my fucking fault that the Rothschilds are one of the top 10 richest families on earth and that they built Israel. I didn't fucking do it.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Rothschilds are the guardians of the papal treasure. The Vatican owns the lands of Israel. Hegelian Dialectic dude. I swear I don't oppose you guys out of malice.

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whoever guards their treasure is in control. Why would you let someone else guard your treasure.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As a red herring? The Rothschild's own name can be roughly translated into that. (Literally "red sign")

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Maybe so then does that mean rothschild doesn't really guard that treasure, meaning not really in charge of the vatican's money?