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PART 1

Mein Kampf was NOT Written by Stempfle who was NOT a Jesuit


Hibs writes:

I'm personally sure they were the ones behind both communism and national socialism so I think this is an important background regarding the rise of the far right.

Jesuit Catholics wrote hundreds of encyclicals against communism and National Socialism and for the protection of property rights and labor. Marrano Jesuit communist Jews, whom took over the Jesuit order, however, were for this incorporated ism.

Mein Kampf wasn't written by Hitler himself, it was written by a catholic priest.

Complete and utter lie. Most of what you post is hearsay anyway.

Hibs also says:

...the Rothschilds and the other elite Jews aren't the big deal when compared with the jesuits.

^ ^ ^ This theory is quote-from-quote identical to Zionist Jew Barry Chamish and rabbi Antelman.

Or this complete fabrication:

Althought I have my reasons to be skeptical about it, this scenario is very similar to Albert Pike's letter about the outcome of WWIII Since the Jews would not only probably end up losing Israel but get a bunch of their own killed, then how could greater Israel ever be the final plan of the NWO?

^ ^ ^ That WWIII letter was a fake.

Fallacies of the Jesuit conspiracy theory (great read):

https://fitzinfo.net/2015/02/03/fallacies-of-the-jesuit-conspiracy-theory/

Prominent Anti-Jesuit theorists include: Alan Lamont (Zionist freemason and flat-earth disinfo agemt), Edmond Paris (Mason; wrongly claimed a Jesuit wrote Mein Kampf and did not source this claim in his book where /u/HibikiBlack is sourcing from ; I debunked this in one of useless_aether's posts; also, Nazis are the naturalist antithesis of Zionists and Judeo-masonry; hence why Nazi's lost because they persecuted the church and the Mystical body of Christ); Eric Jon Phelps (Zionist Jew, diamond dealer, LLC located in Israel, flat-earth disinfo agent, promotes racism and white supremacy to racialize Caucasians under the banner of Zionism; also claimed, like you did, the Kennedy's were secret protestants trying to undermine the Catholic church); Drake Shelton AKA Souther Israelite (exposed freemason of the Tennessee lodge, Jewish, flat-earth disinfo, racist, says JFK faked his own death.)

Edmond Paris wrote the book "Secret History of the Jesuits". In a 2018 update, we find there is an 'Edmond Paris Foundation' at 16, Rue Cadet, Paris.

https://bit.ly/3qeORfM

Whose address is that? - The largest Freemasonic lodge in the west.

So one of the foundational texts pushing Jesuit conspiracy theories came out of a largely 'Jewish' Freemasonic Lodge?

https://godf.org/museefm/infos.htm

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/066/185/193/original/506728bdc0bafaba.png

In Paris' thesis, Jesuits controlled the Nazis, which is quite an odd statement; though before Vatican II, the deplorable trifecta, was considered by the naturalist Nazis to be Masons, Jesuits, Zionist/Bolshevik Jews; who they'd eventually arrest and throw in a concentration camps.

Edmond Paris's book is published by Christian Zionist Jack Chick. Who promotes this:

https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=1000

^ ^ ^ Unbiblical Chistian Zionist propaganda.

The theory of Jesuit take-over is indeed called a NWO theory, but mainly by the apologists of the “Freemasons-Jewish bankers” theory. Its goal is to imply that the real danger comes from the Vatican. (This fear sounds really medieval, the Pope does not have such power any more.)

In the German wikipedia article, we read:

The role played by Stempfle in the creation of Hitler's political confession Mein Kampf is controversial in historical research and has not yet been definitively clarified.

And yet, here is Paris, who sells his book in the largest Freemasonic lodge in the world telling us a Jesuit, who was not even a Jesuit, wrote the entire book without any footnote.

Stempfle entered the Catholic Order of the Poor Hermits of Saint Jerome as a young man. [3] On the other hand, as Lapomarda has shown, the membership of the Jesuit Order, which is often attributed to him in literature, is a mistake on the part of the authors concerned, which, even contemporaries of Stempfles, often underwent and, according to Plöckinger, " made fun of it". Due to a lack of members, the Hieronymite Order was later dissolved. Stempfle himself no longer wore religious costume from about 1923 and no longer held priestly functions, but was still referred to by confidants and acquaintances as "Father Stempfle". For this reason, Stempfle often still figures as a father in literature, when we talk about the years 1923 to 1934, for which this title is strictly no longer true. Helmut Heiber even refers to him – as the only author and probably false – as a prelate.

(Vincent A. Lapomarda: The Jesuits and the Third Reich, 1989, S. 36.)

(Othmar Plöckinger: Geschichte eines Buches. Adolf Hitlers "Mein Kampf" 1922-1945, S. 134.)

(Helmut Heiber: Adolf Hitler. Eine Biographie, 1960, S. 47.)

The Zionist Jew Konrad Heiden, who allegedly also wrote that a Jesuit wrote Mein Kampf, NEVER actually CLAIMED a Jesuit wrote Mein Kampf but instead edited and changed some passages of it, not paragraphs and not chapters and certainly not the whole thing. Which means Hitler was probably in full accordance of these facts.

...some changes to the original text and even rewrote some passages completely.

The renegade National Socialist Otto Strasser, Hitler's enemy reported in his 1942 book Hitler and I, published in Exile in The United States, that Stempfle had worked for months to organize the thoughts expressed in the manuscript on Mein Kampf. In addition, he put into the world the legend that Hitler had Stempfle assassinated because of his corrections to the book. This note was later taken up by the English Hitler biographer Alan Bullock. In his reflection on Hitler's vita, he stated that Stempfle had "stylistically cleaned" Hitler's manuscript (pruned) and rewritten it in parts. [23] In his wide-ranging study of the history of Mein Kampf, Othmar Plöckinger proves that over the years numerous authors took up Bullock's claim and thus spread his view of Stempfle's role in the creation of Mein Kampf.

But still not proof, all claims and it comes straight from the mouth of one of Hitler's biigest rivals. And again, Stempfle was NOT A JESUIT but did edit thousands of books.

Harry Schulze-Wilde went so far as to attribute to Stempfle the merit that he had rewritten Mein Kampf into a "somewhat understandable German". Riemeck claims that Stempfle, together with Josef Czerny, tried to bring some order to the thoughts in Hitler's book by giving structure to the promptings wildly thrown together by Hitler, as well as grammar and orthography of the corrected the manuscript.

This seems far more likely, because he was an editor afterall.

Kern points out that Stempfle, like the other "repeatedly mentioned co-authors" of Mein Kampf, had nothing to do with the writing of the book. In contrast to this "legend", Stempfle's role was limited exclusively to "stylistic corrections". [27] Ernst Nolte agrees and also attributes Stempfle only to corrective work on Hitler's original text. [28]

Werner Maser quotes Hermann Hammer, who claimed in a study in 1956 that "Father Bernhard Stempfle [...] however, Ilse Hess, the wife of Rudolf Hess, wrote to him in 1965 that neither Stempfle nor Karl Haushofer had collaborated on the Hitler book, but that she and her husband had "purely stylistically..."

So, the Jew Heiden, never claims a Jesuit nor Stempfle wrote Mein Kampf. Heiden was a Jewish Socialist, left-wing journalist, he was vocally against National Socialism and Hitler. Heiden belonged to nearly all the groups least liked by Hitler, and realized as much; soon after the accession of the Hitler government, he wisely saw fit to leave a Germany where he was no longer welcome. It is therefore no surprise that he is very hostile to the subject of his biography, for both political and personal reasons.

Only rarely does he list his sources, which makes his account problematic for the critical historian to use; while many of his stories are not inherently implausible, others have a touch of the fantastic to them, and some are demonstrably erroneous rumors. (For example, his frivolously speculative sections on der Führer's sex life -- A perennial favorite of popular modern historians.) On the other hand, he does on occasion quote interesting primary-source documents, among them a private letter by serving Corporal Adolf Hitler (in World War I) to a pre-war acquaintance in Munich, describing the heavy fighting he has seen. A real treat back then, although nowadays such documents are also available elsewhere (for example, in Werner Maser's published sample of Hitler's private writings).

As was probably inevitable, given his limited sources and personal biases, Heiden's image of the German dictator was in many ways incomplete, and in some severely mistaken. So, for example, he subscribed to the then-common idea of Hitler as a mere power-hungry demagogue, whose politics were largely opportunistic and lacking in conviction. (Subsequent inquiry has entirely reversed this view.) He also imagined Hitler as a sort of split personality in his earlier works, though here that theory is toned down. Moreover, Heiden's own Marxian conceptions strongly color his political analysis of the rise of Hitler's movement. And of course, this book's limited scope by itself precludes any real study of Hitler as leader of Germany, as opposed to leader of the opposition.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All right then. You make valid points about the profession of Bernhard. However, just because a group of people wrote that he wasn't a Jesuit doesn't mean he wasn't one at some point, there are people that consider he was one at some point.

I'm also sorry for saying that Bernhard downright wrote Mein Kampf, but there's a lot of sources that point that he was involved in it at least.

Anyway, I don't think the Jesuits downright controlled the National Socialists either at this point, I think Himmler at some point took control of the group which eventually caused a civil war in the Roman Catholic Church, but hey this by itself is all theory of mine. You don't have to make an histrionic mess of things just because I got a few terms wrong.