I just wanted to say bye

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[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah. You're 100% right. This is the exact plan.

You have to realize they're working from a playbook designed by people with advanced educations in psychology. All we can do is fight back. Never give up! You're the good guy here, no matter how much they fling at you.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Thank you. It really is a playbook, they have about 15 styles of attacks they cycle through over and over. As admin I've seen every style of attack a dozen times over. The users are shielded from this though so a lot of them don't realize what's going on, and how intense and serious the attacks are. Users only see the stuff that slips through the cracks, so they think it's not so bad. But if they saw the full picture, they'd realize how bad these attacks are.

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Keep sending them back to the abyss from whence they came.

Grown-ups don't have a temper tantrum when someone points out they misused a word. Grown-ups don't let children get their way just because they threw a tantrum. Grown-ups don't stop doing what's right just because a child might throw a tantrum over it.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I agree. But it's one thing when a child is throwing a tantrum, and it's entirely another when someone is paid to have a tantrum for hours a day, every day for months and months. Even psychopaths eventually get bored and stop. But paid people don't.

It's just wild they go to such great effort for such a small site as this. That says a lot about the state of the internet as a whole, and why almost every single forum is so messed up these days. It's all being destroyed intentionally. And it's so cheap and easy to do, if you think about it. Why wouldn't they?

I only see this trend getting worse. Same with robocalling on phones, and spam emails, and all the ads and scams in your physical mailbox. Our communications systems are being gamed by bad actors more and more frequently. And it's basically impossible to prosecute or stop when they're on the other side of the world, and they're able to spoof their phone number and spoof their IP addresses so you don't even know who they are or where they are. It makes talking person-to-person more appealing, that's for sure.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Well, we're on the front lines of this new battle, that's for sure. How about browser fingerprinting? That works for the ad companies.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

They spoof their browser fingerprints too, it's randomized.

These people are not fucking around.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Maybe compare browser footprints when they log in, and if it's different every time shadow ban them?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah that's a good idea I've been considering, and I actually wrote a script to detect that sort of thing a bit, but from what I've seen so far they make it non-random enough to avoid that sort of detection. The level of sophistication is part of what's so unsettling about these attacks

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Jesus Christ, man. You're on the front lines of a new kind of war. We've all got to pull together. They must not win and silence us. Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm glad you see what I'm seeing. It is pretty serious but most people don't realize because they don't see the full picture. The implications are staggering, if considered across all forums on the internet, and across the resulting deterioration of mental health of the hundreds of millions of readers of all those forums.

Thank you for your kind words. I just do my best despite the obstacles, nothing else I can do.

I do hope more people wake up to the scope and seriousness of this issue though, because I feel like the default mentality is still "Oh it's just some fools on a forum, who cares?" but they don't realize our information sources have been hijacked. They don't realize how deep and wide the trolling goes, it's not just some kids having a laugh. And I didn't really get that either until I was an admin myself. It's very hard to explain until you see it firsthand, which most people don't because the job of the admins and mods is to shield the users from seeing those attacks at all. It's a very peculiar situation, where people need to wise up but are protected from the suffering of the thing that creates the necessity to wise up in the first place.

But as trolling becomes more prevalent and the methods more common, everyone will be exposed to this sort of thing until it's undeniable by everyone. It's going to make people stop using the internet altogether, except to look things up once in a while. I think a lot of people have already left social media forever because of how toxic it has become from these attacks. I'm starting to think that's the intent. They just don't want us talking to each other and agreeing on things. They want every interaction to be a schoolyard bully fight, so people get exasperated and stop trying altogether. It's the ultimate divide and conquer, to make every person hate every other person, by a few psychopaths pretending to be a crowd of psychopaths, skewing people's view of humanity and making them fear and hate their neighbors and peers.

People need to wake up... there's a bad pied piper situation happening via the internet and a lot of people don't see it... but I do believe we as a species can overcome this obstacle in the long run.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poor Mag, you have to deal with so much... Please talk to me if it becomes too much. I've got to deal with a lot of it too, but it's obvious I'm a bit antisocial, so it doesn't really get to me unless one of my friends (I guess you're the only one left now, they all turned out to be trolls...) are upset.