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[–]america_first_1776 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Imagine being such an inefficient retard you can't manage to raise children while holding a job

"Raising" a child doesn't include throwing them in a daycare.

[–]Comatoast 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I guess it's completely dismissed how long it takes to create a nutritious meal several times a day, clean up after all of it each time, keep laundry washed for several people along with bedding and bath linens, tend to errands, tend to pets, tend to gardening, tend to schoolwork for one or more child and tutor as necessary, tend to vacuuming sometimes multiple times a day, keeping surfaces nasty-shit-free after everyone eats/makes art, keep up with hemming your husband and children's fucked up clothing and any sewing projects you have, bathing children, getting children ready for bed.

Yep. Stay at home mothers don't do shit.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Oh fucking please. I do that for myself and it barely takes half an hour. I did it for my ex who worked far longer shifts and it barely took any longer. You just barely have to get up, push buttons, maybe carry some things, and wipe down counters. You act like it's some gigantic arduous task when most adults are fully capable of cleaning up after themselves with little effort. Nothing about basic maintenance activities is special. Don't be fucking ridiculous.

As for young children, why yes, I happen to think it's better to have a stay at home mother... for the first few years. Then it's better economically for all parties concerned if she at least has a part time job to contribute funds. You know, for the future of that child? Thinking forward? Being responsible?

[–]Comatoast 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not talking about you taking care of you or another adult that doesn't make a mess. Did you even read all of my post, or just pick and choose parts of it to argue with out of context?

Do you have kids?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As for young children, why yes, I happen to think it's better to have a stay at home mother... for the first few years. Then it's better economically for all parties concerned if she at least has a part time job to contribute funds. You know, for the future of that child? Thinking forward? Being responsible?

Did you even read my reply?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The entire first paragraph that you wrote in response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Young children don't just evolve into mess-free creatures. They still need food, they still need clean laundry, they still need to go out places or have friends over to play. Right now no one's able to do much because of the Covid shit, and depending on the options chosen you might be teaching your child full-time while doing all that other shit too.

I don't think that any of what I type to you will matter though. I welcome you to continue your childfree journey of maximum capitalism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The entire first paragraph that you wrote in response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

So the answer is "No, I didn't read before I wrote my reply". I'm not having a nonversation with someone who isn't bothering to participate.

[–]Velocity 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tending to a household with children is completely different and time consuming than two adults. You have no idea.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My middle class friends thought that. Then they had to book into daycare for a day and all the other kids the same age as theirs were sitting nicely havering their tea party and their kids were flaying around like jabbering little animals.

We can romanticise the nuclear family too much. Community care and socialising with other kids actually does children the world of good. You think those high achieving rich kids were looked after by no one but their parents?

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kids can and should still be socialized, especially if parents are part of homeschool groups, and should take their kids to the park and playground (when it's actually effing open again.)