Christian traditional housewife looking for tradwife communities. I came from Reddit to escape political correctness and feminism.

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[–]Cass 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (29 children)

So basically you want to be in the child role until you die. Weird fetish, but okay.

[–]america_first_1776 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (25 children)

Mothers are necessary to raise children. To call someone a child for stating they want to be what every woman was till the brainwashing kicked in is childish.

[–]Cass 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (13 children)

What makes a child a child? Being dependent. What is OP? Dependent.

What is being childish? Not being independent. What is OP? Not independent.

To add to that: OP is also cowardly due to her fear of facing life without an authority figure to lead her around like a dog.

So yes, mothers are needed to raise children. But those poor children! Imagine what they learn from their childish, cowardly mother.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

children are only dependent because they haven't develpped yet. women are dependent on men to bring in the money but men are dependent on women to raise the children.

[–]RookOnzo 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Back when men had honorable wages and actual benefits.

[–]RookOnzo 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Now we are all screwed... congrats Soros you won. Now twice the slaves and you pay less.

[–]suckitreddit 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

What makes a child a child? Being dependent. What is OP? Dependent.

What is being childish? Not being independent. What is OP? Not independent.

To add to that: OP is also cowardly due to her fear of facing life without an authority figure to lead her around like a dog.

So yes, mothers are needed to raise children. But those poor children! Imagine what they learn from their childish, cowardly mother.

Your opinion is ridiculous. Nobody is an island. Everyone is dependent on someone. Even CEOs of mega companies depend on their workers to keep their business going. Unless you're living in the woods, you're going to need other people. That's just a fact. She's just doing it in a way that for some reason makes you uncomfortable. If she's happy, and doing a good job as a mother, so what? It almost seems like you're jealous. Why the bitterness? Raising kids is important. It's a full time job, not something you half-ass. I mean, what would be better? What she's doing, or her going to work, and hiring a babysitter to raise her kids?

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, what would be better? What she's doing, or her going to work, and hiring a babysitter to raise her kids?

It depends on whether you want your kids to be brought up well or whether you want them to grow up to be just like you. 🤣

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Looks like jealousy to me. Barren?

[–]marmorsymphata 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

tfw you have to pretend working mothers aren't real to justify your pathetically flimsy ideology

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh look, another terf, and another with a seething issue with motherhood in general. Seeing a pattern here.

[–]chumbawamba 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

left reddit because it was filled with people like you, come to this site and it's filled with people like you

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry your echo chamber is in another castle? Go back to Voat then.

[–]marmorsymphata 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, you see, it's because this is the normal, healthy way to think lmao

[–]america_first_1776 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We're all dependent on some entity in one way or another. Women are either dependent on corporations/free gov cheese or their husband who has good intentions and can guide them in the right way.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is true in most of the West but you have to remember that many collectivist societies exist where no adult is independent.

[–]marmorsymphata 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Acting like a fully realized human being and not a single purpose child is brainwashing?

Imagine being such an inefficient retard you can't manage to raise children while holding a job

[–]america_first_1776 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Imagine being such an inefficient retard you can't manage to raise children while holding a job

"Raising" a child doesn't include throwing them in a daycare.

[–]Comatoast 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I guess it's completely dismissed how long it takes to create a nutritious meal several times a day, clean up after all of it each time, keep laundry washed for several people along with bedding and bath linens, tend to errands, tend to pets, tend to gardening, tend to schoolwork for one or more child and tutor as necessary, tend to vacuuming sometimes multiple times a day, keeping surfaces nasty-shit-free after everyone eats/makes art, keep up with hemming your husband and children's fucked up clothing and any sewing projects you have, bathing children, getting children ready for bed.

Yep. Stay at home mothers don't do shit.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Oh fucking please. I do that for myself and it barely takes half an hour. I did it for my ex who worked far longer shifts and it barely took any longer. You just barely have to get up, push buttons, maybe carry some things, and wipe down counters. You act like it's some gigantic arduous task when most adults are fully capable of cleaning up after themselves with little effort. Nothing about basic maintenance activities is special. Don't be fucking ridiculous.

As for young children, why yes, I happen to think it's better to have a stay at home mother... for the first few years. Then it's better economically for all parties concerned if she at least has a part time job to contribute funds. You know, for the future of that child? Thinking forward? Being responsible?

[–]Comatoast 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not talking about you taking care of you or another adult that doesn't make a mess. Did you even read all of my post, or just pick and choose parts of it to argue with out of context?

Do you have kids?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As for young children, why yes, I happen to think it's better to have a stay at home mother... for the first few years. Then it's better economically for all parties concerned if she at least has a part time job to contribute funds. You know, for the future of that child? Thinking forward? Being responsible?

Did you even read my reply?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The entire first paragraph that you wrote in response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Young children don't just evolve into mess-free creatures. They still need food, they still need clean laundry, they still need to go out places or have friends over to play. Right now no one's able to do much because of the Covid shit, and depending on the options chosen you might be teaching your child full-time while doing all that other shit too.

I don't think that any of what I type to you will matter though. I welcome you to continue your childfree journey of maximum capitalism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The entire first paragraph that you wrote in response had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

So the answer is "No, I didn't read before I wrote my reply". I'm not having a nonversation with someone who isn't bothering to participate.

[–]Velocity 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tending to a household with children is completely different and time consuming than two adults. You have no idea.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My middle class friends thought that. Then they had to book into daycare for a day and all the other kids the same age as theirs were sitting nicely havering their tea party and their kids were flaying around like jabbering little animals.

We can romanticise the nuclear family too much. Community care and socialising with other kids actually does children the world of good. You think those high achieving rich kids were looked after by no one but their parents?

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kids can and should still be socialized, especially if parents are part of homeschool groups, and should take their kids to the park and playground (when it's actually effing open again.)

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

By that measure everyone who believes in any religion or government is childish.

[–]Cass 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If you're curious about why this viewpoint came to be I recommend https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25491.Escape_from_Freedom

It's very short but it delves deep into why people in general give up their independence, like OP did. OP did it to religion and the dynamic she has with her husband, but if it wasn't religion she would have found another venue. Others give up their self for political ideologies. Fromm talks about both these things and more in his book.

[–]Zahn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You feel the same about stay at home dad's too?

I mean, you're barely containing your own contempt and bitterness about the thought of a stay at home/kept Mother. Interesting to observe.