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[–]forgottenpasswordguy 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I don't blame you and I'm surprised I don't see more people like you. It must be hard to have leftist ideals while actually hanging around the left these days. Sometimes I feel the same hanging with people on the right when they start whining about the BLM protests, you can be skeptical about the numbers of police specifically targeting black people, but a lot of the people marching simply want justice and police accountability-nothing wrong with that.

[–]Girlwiththeraventat 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They have framed police accountability as being only a black issue. Out of the people killed by police every year, black people are the minority. Which is understandable because they are a minority population anyway. But now you have people saying cops hunt black people and every white person is racist. Which is just not true. And those statements turn away people from their cause. Like me. I do think the police system needs an overhaul. But I dont think it's a race issue like the media and BLM are trying to make it.

[–]forgottenpasswordguy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with you on that for the most part.

I'm kinda weird in that I like seeing the protests (except for the accompanying people in the middle of the road, and vandalism) and I hope they move us forward, but at the same time I don't like that it has been made into such a racial issue. If they would just leave it at "the thugs that broke into Breonna Taylor's home haven't been charged, cops should fear consequences of suffocating people like George Floyd, stop shooting shoving and gassing peaceful protestors, and Daniel Shaver's murderers haven't seen any justice" that would be ideal.

[–]bobbobbybob 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

BLM was great, until it started to hate. At that point, fuck that racist shit. I've seen too many videos of unprovoked violence towards whites, and calls for murder, to ever support or have any time for BLM.

Police have a hard job. It does attract some bad people, but also some very very caring people. It must be soul destroying to work in black communities, clearing up the brains of murdered children (what was it, 14 people killed last weekend, in one city), dead at the hands of mindlessly vicious and uncaring black people.

Blacks have an issue in their communities, an issue of insane and destructive behaviours and a lack of regard for any of the tenets of civilisation.

Black lives have always mattered. But Black people seem to not care.

[–]forgottenpasswordguy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah 67 people shot in Chicago and I haven't heard of any protests over that. Can you imagine if the police had 67 unjustified shootings in one city in one weekend?

Anyways I try to judge the individuals and not the group (BLM) itself, but if we are to judge the group there is certainly room for improvement. You're not wrong.

[–]gravitywitch 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In no way am I speaking for all Black Americans (we aren’t a monolith), but from witnessing various acts within my particular community and family, a lot of us do care. Especially us Black women. We talk about it a lot (blogs, twitter engagement, amongst friends and family, as well as engagement in schools). But I think that because we are women within our various and diverse communities, we aren’t heard a whole lot (there’s the problem of shutting down women’s voices in various cultures around the world). We do small things to foster care and nurturing within our own communities such as watching out for neighborhood kids, going through with official and unofficial adoptions to make sure kids are growing up in homes with love and an appreciation for education, supporting women (and men) who suffer from physical, mental, and emotional trauma, setting up fundraisers for schools and community organizations, conducting speaking engagements for students about their various choices in life for free (something I, my colleagues, and friends do). We do care, it’s just that our actions are on a small intimate scale.