12-Year Reddit veteran, sadly acknowledging the site won't return to the way it was 7+ years ago

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[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

This site is operating off of donations. So, what is more likely to happen is that the domain will be stolen by the DNS host and then CloudFlare will kick them off. Of course, this will happen after the payment processors and/or bank accounts are turned off. That's the most recent approach globohomo has taken to deplatforming sites that allow opinions that are not in alignment with the mainstream orthodoxy.

[–]cloudrabbit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This site is operating off of donations. So, what is more likely to happen is that the domain will be stolen by the DNS host and then CloudFlare will kick them off. Of course, this will happen after the payment processors and/or bank accounts are turned off.

Damn could you elaborate? How is that legally possible?

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

How is that legally possible?

Private unregulated companies doing whatever they want.

Damn could you elaborate?

For 8chan: Brenton Tarrant live-streamed his attack of the mosque in New Zealand to Facebook. He posted links to this livestream on Twitter, Facebook (obviously), and 8chan. I was gonna link you to news stories but I see they have been mostly memory holed.

For Dailystormer: they suffered the same fate after launching a defense of James Fields in the wake of the Unite the Right rally. He is currently serving 110 years for a hit and run on an overweight Antifa activist that was among those attacking his car when he sped off. She was clipped in the process and had a heart attack.

Stormfront also was deplatformed at the same time and for the same reasons, but got it back due to having been a fed honeypot for over a decade.

[–]BobQuixote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What does Brenton Tarrant have to do with your point?

[–]teelo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The NZ government ordered all their ISPs to block connections to 4chan and 4channel, even days after 4chan had already removed all the videos of it, and even though it was never even shared on 4channel. It took a month before I could browse 4chan again without using a foreign DNS.

[–]SaidOverRed 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The truth is, that they wanted to squash our right to see that the shooter specifically said he was doing it to bring about a gun ban. But you can't let people know that they are giving him exactly what he wants. So they suppress it and move to let no catastrophe go to waste, as it were.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

He posted a link to his Facebook livestream on 8chan /pol/, it was removed fairly quickly by moderators but that was the justification used to deplatform them.

[–]basedaf 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

IIRC 8ch tweeted it took about a day to remove the original post, and they also allowed links after the fact (in accordance with US law) to the shooting spree and manifesto. They were fairly alone in doing so as well. That also didn't kill 8ch, there were two copycat shooters back to back, and cloudfare eventually released a statement that while 8chan says its not lawless, they've created an environment where lawlessness flows freely. Ultimately as far as deplatforming goes, I really don't blame cloudfare for their decision. That was a heavy burden on their shoulders, and hardly 8chans first infraction on 100% illegal speech. People died, I would of have done the same in their position.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it was livestreamed on... facebook

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is legal because it is not explicitly illegal. It is not speculative either, there are examples of both payment processors like Visa, Mastercard and paypal cancelling "problematic" websites and organizations; as well as DNS hosts blocking websites and hosting services deleting them.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe Gab is the latest example.

[–]basedaf 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

cloudfare has kicked off 2 sites to date, and both sites still have ddos protection through other companies. DNS hijacking can be solved by just having a twitter account to link to the new dns. If 8ch, wikileaks, thepiratebay, and all the rest survive non stop dns hijacking, so can saidit.