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[–]ech[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It purports to target Israel for human rights abuses, but ignores worse human rights abuses elsewhere. Some people say the real impetus is antisemitism, but I think it's anti-civilization. Israel is an unapologetic white-ish ethnostate willing to defend its demographics and borders. Keffiyeh third-worldist activist types don't actually care how many innocents are abused or enslaved -- if they did, they'd care about the plight of women in MENA or dissidents in China. They care about signaling against the West and white people.

BDS against South Africa was misguided for the same reason. Nobody can pretend with a straight face that South Africa now is a better country than it was under apartheid. I don't like apartheid but in the grand scheme of things, it seems like it was the lesser of two evils.

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I think israel does run a lot of things in USA and other western countries, to say that gets you labeled antisemitic and an unperson, to instead point out human rights abuses and call for boycotts is harder for those israel supporters to argue against, and the way they put in laws against BDS while not putting in laws against these other countries you mention makes them look like hypocrites, which I think is the main point here. Trump did put in tariffs against China. A lot of people criticized China in the way they treated Hong Kong but then you saw a lot of celibrities and corporations bend the knee to support China, showing cold hard cash considerations behind it and not really caring about human rights. It's always good to use these tactics to make people look like hypocrities I think. Am I a hypocrite for supporting BDS, truth is I'd want to boycott every country out there that is not USA, it's another cold hard cash consideration because if we put boycotts and tariffs on goods from other countries, that helps American businesses here in USA. That is anti capitalism and anti competition but well I'm a far left socialist economicaly, I think most people are and that Trump is actually to the left of dems like Hillary economically and that is really why he won. One good thing about this is you can help american businesses at the same time as hurting human rights abusers in other countries, to me it is win win and I don't understand why others disagree, well I know why, due to MSM propaganda. Trump is pro israel though, and of course anti BDS. Who am I to vote for that is pro BDS though? Only a few dems like Omar support it, none for president out of Biden or Trump. If you think for yourself there is no downside to BDS.

[–]ech[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think israel does run a lot of things in USA and other western countries, to say that gets you labeled antisemitic and an unperson

Criticizing Jews qua Jews gets you this, but criticizing Israel is downright fashionable. Powerful Jewish figures and institutions ranging from Jon Stewart to the New York Times hate Israel. It's fashionable for the same reason that criticizing cops and white people is fashionable.

If you think for yourself there is no downside to BDS.

I see a downside to it because I applaud what Israel is doing (enforcing its borders, protecting its heritage population, and keeping Islam marginalized), and wish the West could do the same. If there's an economic upside to tariffs, then let's apply them in an economically optimal fashion, not a fashion designed to scold Israel for not wanting to get swamped by Africans.

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yeah well fashiionable just because it's the only way to do that, and even that is getting towards being disallowed in all facets of society. I find it kind of like the streisand effect. Them telling me to not criticize Israel is what made me look more into it, more into conspiracy theories about jews, seeing a lot of truth in who rules us. Jon Stewart hates Israel? I did like his show and he spoke truth to power but that might be why he lost his show and isn't as in the media as much anymore. Does NY times support BDS? I suppose there must have been opinion pieces on it. I don't really read that.

I guess I do understand too why Israel enforces borders, and I kind of feel like if Palestineans don't like it, they should just move. But if I say if black people don't like it in America they should just move, that looks racist. Both whites in America and Israelis in Judea stole land for natives. The only problem here is when Israel enccourages other countries to have open borders while enforcing their borders stringently at the same time, it's that hypocrisy again which agitates me.