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[–]ech[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

In my experience the overlap is rare, but you do run into fellow travelers every once in awhile. The overlap ought to be more significant objectively, since the best societies for women are Western (arguably, "white") ones.

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Would you not consider each ethnicity's society best for the women of each ethnicity?

[–]ech[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I guess this raises philosophical questions about the nature of good and what's "best." My instinct is that societies where women are likely to be tortured, murdered, or forcibly raped en masse are not good societies for women. Like, if you are dying from complications of infibulation, I would argue you are obviously worse off than you would be as an alienated immigrant elsewhere.

Importantly, I am not making an argument for immigration. Even if it's true that Pakistani society is objectively worse for all women than, say, Western European society, that doesn't mean it's in the interest of Western Europe to impose feminism through imperial adventures or invite hordes of refugees.