I came here because I don't want to be told what to think. I believe this is the most evil year the world has ever seen and I think the most important thing right now to the common man/woman is freedom of speech. don't like 4chans format so here I am.

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[–]magnora7 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Not even just communist, but authoritarian technocrats.

There's all shades of authoritarians pushing their censorship. If you want to see right-wing authoritarian censorship, go to thedonald.win and post something like "Zionists control this website" or a factual negative thing about Trump, and watch it disappear.

The left-backed censorship is just more obvious because they have control of more major websites, like reddit. But sites like thedonald.win and voat show that the right is doing the same thing if given the chance.

So I think it's really an authoritarian vs anti-authoritarian thing, more than a right vs left thing.

It's like this political cartoon: https://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/march_of_tyranny1.jpg

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're not wrong. thedonald has been Zionist cancer since Trump won the nomination of the Republican party. thedonald is top down tyranny. Voat is the tyranny of the majority (democracy). You can post anything on Voat, but the down-vote system makes it an echo chamber because of posting restrictions on low/negative karma accounts. Reddit is the worst of both (tyranny of majority and moderators).

I'd probably be sitting at -XXXX karma right now if this site had down-votes, and able to post once every few hours. I have fun here, but it wouldn't be worth the effort if that was the case.

People can't be trusted with down-votes because they view them as "this hurt my feelings" or "I disagree" buttons.

[–]book-of-saturday 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The left-backed censorship is just more obvious because they have control of more major websites, like reddit. But sites like thedonald.win and voat show that the right is doing the same thing if given the chance.

Absolutely, and 4chan and 8chan. The whole "God Emperor" thing, Q, etc. As for the communities, it's the same cult of personality just on the right; plus unmentionable topics such as how come Q never criticizes Israel or Trump's ridiculous bailouts.

That's why SaidIt should always be anti-extremes, my friend!

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think there's any censorship on 4chan or 8chan. At least in my experience I've seen the range of opinions even on /b and /pol which people constantly decry as FAR RIGHT NEO NAZIS and really it's diverse as any other site.

[–]BigNoseFloyd 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't say any. Janitor logs have been leaked in the past and they're just as bad as any other internet moderators. The screenshots are pretty obscure but they do have their own agendas. Banning generals, weebshit, or people saying nigger outside of b

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I've only spent a bit of time on /b not really any of the other subs so I'm not super informed.

[–]PresentableSonInLaw 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Might wanna look at it from a technology perspective. Digital technology generally leads to centralization and monopolization, which are naturally authoritarian. The remedy being the balkanization of the internet, what I expect to see in the coming years.

[–]hector_died_of_aids 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Digital technology generally leads to centralization and monopolization

no it doesn't. patent trolls through 2000-2010 is what caused that

[–]PresentableSonInLaw 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It does, due to cheap scalability and distribution, general uniqueness of digital products, and sustainable competitive advantage of being the market leader, most digital markets will end up as a monopoly/oligopoly. This is in contrast with manufacturing and services industries.

[–]hector_died_of_aids 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no

[–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully we can for an alliance of anti authoritarianism and anti tech slavery. I think corbett has talked a bit about this. He was on computing forever recently and they had a quality exchange.

[–]teelo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Whats the driver behind non-political censorship?

I don't have any personal examples, but I see interesting conversations on various gaming subs that get thousands of upvotes and hundreds of comments before being randomly removed by moderators.

Just scrolling through /r/undelete I see a ton of front-page memes that moderators nuked. Do they not get that generic subs are going to attract generic posts?

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's about narrative control. You control the minds of the people, then you also control their actions by extension.

It's always about power and control with those at the top. That's why they're there in the first place, they've made their lives about acquiring power and control over others, and disregarded morality in the process because it only limits them

[–]teelo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But what control are they really accomplishing by censoring something that has already done its rounds, already got upvoted by 10k and seen by exponentially more?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, most of the things on thedonald are instantly keyword-removed by an automated system with in a second or two. And reddit does keyword removals now too. And voat will downvote you so it never makes the rounds in the first place.