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[–]TopicallyDifferent 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I get what you mean and it does seem like they'd just rather be the most pampered category of oppression olympics, but at the same time, in this climate of extreme groupthink backed by blackmail it takes brass balls to go outside the status quo, even if for misguided reasons.

I'd still rather like if they'd go all the way and figure out the real division between oppressor and oppressed is class\wealth though.

[–]Redwoods 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

they may have changed since i first got into the ideology but what i know about gender critical is that it's just the belief that there are only two genders. if you have a Y chromosome, you're a guy, and if you don't, you're a woman. that's it. anything beyond that is the bullshit that we're critical of. none of that non-binary, transgender, what's your pronoun whatever bullshit. oppression was never part of it. but that might just be my own personal view of it.

[–]TopicallyDifferent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I get and agree with that, and admit my ignorance, but from my superficial skim of it during the JKR controversies, it seems like most people there are still keeping the radfem framework of being systemically oppressed by males and by the patriarchy - which I don't agree with, at least when it comes to western society.

[–]Redwoods 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i'm probably ignorant about that, as well. radfem and gender critical ideas are mutually exclusive in my mind and i don't consider myself a radical feminist. i mean, i do believe in equal rights and equity for women but i don't think the whole world is out to get us to make sure we fail. i can somewhat see where radfems are coming from in terms of oppression especially with the older generations but i agree that the problems people endure between different socioeconomic stratas are more obvious and should be more heavily addressed