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[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Socrates always started from a point of agreement, and I think we can do that on anything.

One of his better ideas, imo. I also love his view on the innate goodness of people (expressed as Socratic Intellectualism):

"one will do what is right or best just as soon as one truly understands what is right or best"

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm re-reading 'the Mo Tzu' and it occurred to me how many great thinkers or philosophical traditions can be broke up into "good human nature" or "bad human nature".

Moists I guess held to a good human nature and they thought like this: if we can not look to rulers for a generalized sense of what a ruler should be, where do we look? Well, as a people of a nation are under a ruler of that nation, so the nations are under the heavens, so we should look to the heavens. The heavens bestow their bounty to us freely with no discrimination such that all are loved equally (ie food and water are anywhere you look so we're all blessed equally by nature's gifts), so universal love should be the standard by which a ruler is measured the way plumb bobs (or plumb lines), levels, straight edges, and compasses (for circles) are used in building.

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

universal love should be the standard by which a ruler is measured the way plumb bobs (or plumb lines), levels, straight edges, and compasses (for circles) are used in building

As a civil engineer, I find this especially beautiful.