Coming From Gender Critical

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[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

But how are you defining female?

[–]Sun_bear 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

Female: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

But I mean not all women or girls can or want to bear offspring.

[–]Sun_bear 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

So?

Women: the humans who have ovum

Men: the humans who have sperm

There's nothing about being able to have children or wanting to have children in that definition.

[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

But not all women produce eggs, right?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

99.9999% do

[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

At least 1.6% of the population is intersex, according to Google at least. So I'd guess that about 1%-2% of non-transgendered people who identify as women have some condition where they can't produce eggs.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The 1% of intersex people are male or female, they aren't in the spectrum.

How does 1% of intersex people invalidate the two genders male and female?

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So all intersex people produce either eggs or sperm? I'm not sure that's true.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Intersex is a genetic defect

[–]goodbyeplanet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

  1. look into statistical significance for defining groups.

  2. if someone has the external genitalia of a female upon birth, they will be subject to the patriarchy from day one, because it is assumed they will reproduce.

  3. intersex people have their own problems, and are not a shield for queer theory.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Aren't trans women subjected to things like sexual violence and discrimination too? Isn't that part of patriarchy?

What's queer theory?

[–]goodbyeplanet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Any violence and discrimination they recieve we conceptualize as discrimination against gender non-conformity, not against women. It's done by other men. It's a men problem, not a women problem.

Further, let me quickly infodump common newbie questions for ya.

  1. How do they drown out women? TIMs (trans-identified men) are socialized as men from childhood, resulting in a specific set of aggressive male behaviours in the % of them that entered trans through sissy porn (as contrasted to the % who were gay or gender nonconforming men and bullied into it). They are a very vocal part of cancel culture and tend to be overrepresented in internet spaces. There's a bit to be said about autism and the "nazi to trans pipeline", but that's the gist of it.

  2. Are they women? TRAs (trans rights activists) think being a woman is defined by comforming to a restricted set of gendered behaviours, and if you exhibit those behaviours you are part of that group (this is our concern with queer theory, but if you want to find out more about QT it's on google). In contrast, a lot of radfems are for abolishing gender, that's why they like saying we're 'transmen in denial'. We believe a vast majority of gendered research is biased by the culture, and women should be allowed to behave however suits them (with debate regarding behaviours that harm themselves or other women). Therefore, "woman" is defined by sex only.

  3. Why are they a problem in the bigger sense? The danger of TIMs is that they take opportunities, political positions, and grants away from natal women, and detract from women's issues such as sex slavery, reproductive coersion, femicide, and global misogyny. We believe natal women are forced into a system of abuse due to their biology, and it is not possible to identify in or out of that system.

Hope this helps.

[–]Sun_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women don't "produce" eggs, they're born with all the ovum they'll ever have.