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[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (35 children)
Possibly dumb question, since I don’t fully understand gender critical feminism:
How do you all go about defining “woman”?
[–]Sun_bear 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun - 3 years ago (34 children)
Woman = adult human female
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (33 children)
But how are you defining female?
[–]Sun_bear 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (32 children)
Female: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (31 children)
But I mean not all women or girls can or want to bear offspring.
[–]Sun_bear 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (30 children)
So?
Women: the humans who have ovum
Men: the humans who have sperm
There's nothing about being able to have children or wanting to have children in that definition.
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (29 children)
But not all women produce eggs, right?
[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 3 years ago (27 children)
99.9999% do
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (26 children)
At least 1.6% of the population is intersex, according to Google at least. So I'd guess that about 1%-2% of non-transgendered people who identify as women have some condition where they can't produce eggs.
[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (8 children)
The 1% of intersex people are male or female, they aren't in the spectrum.
How does 1% of intersex people invalidate the two genders male and female?
[–]goodbyeplanet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (16 children)
look into statistical significance for defining groups.
if someone has the external genitalia of a female upon birth, they will be subject to the patriarchy from day one, because it is assumed they will reproduce.
intersex people have their own problems, and are not a shield for queer theory.
[–]Sun_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Women don't "produce" eggs, they're born with all the ovum they'll ever have.
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[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - (35 children)
[–]Sun_bear 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun - (34 children)
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - (33 children)
[–]Sun_bear 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun - (32 children)
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - (31 children)
[–]Sun_bear 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - (30 children)
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - (29 children)
[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - (27 children)
[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - (26 children)
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[–]goodbyeplanet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - (16 children)
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