I'm a leftist but I'm here

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[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

First off, thanks for the invitation. That looks like an awesome sub and I'll enjoy contributing to it.

Because you said you really wanted pressure, here goes:

You're spreading yourself way too thin. No one man can singlehandedly run 40 subs on that many different subjects. I run two and I already feel challenged in coming up with new content.

I'm not saying you need to give up any of your interests, but you do need to focus on one thing at a time. Rather than trying to maintain several dozen subs, put your energies into just one. Alternatively, work on Bittersweet Seeds or WikiSpooks, since SaidIt has a "publish-or-perish" structure where even the best posts will vanish from sight in a day or two. Finish the content you want to finish, and then once you're sure of its quality, promote it everywhere.

All that said - you're still doing excellent work, even though it's somewhat scattered now. I wouldn't have reached out if I weren't impressed. Even if you keep doing exactly what you're doing you'll still be a big help.

Also: It's a little humorously ironic that, as a decentralization activist, your own efforts are so decentralized. It's also interesting and complementary that my personal project, /s/FoundationGuide, is about "centralizing" all useful information into a single book that will then be distributed freely.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I appreciate the feedback. It's very welcomed. I'm not one to limit myself to a few interests. Subs on SaidIt are not what they are on Reddit. Yet. Nor will ever be without the corporatocracy recognizing SaidIt and using it in common parlance.

I didn't come here from Reddit. I like things organized and I wanted topical subs to "file" my posts under. That's why I made them. Making a CSS and neat banners is bonus. I'd hand them all over or share them or whatever if anyone asks me to. I have less than zero interest in "moderating" anyone. And as far as filling them with content - I don't actively try to fill them. I don't need to find and come up with stuff to post. I just post when I stumble upon it. Maybe it's not the Reddit way, but it's my way and I'm not on Reddit. Maybe it's not even the SaidIt way either. But I'm free to be me on SaidIt (but only up to 40 subs :P ).

Furthering on the moderation issue - I think it's lame for people to rely upon the mods to moderate. People are lazy and want the "authorities" to handle the shit. For a better stronger community on SaidIt (not just individual subs), all people need to take responsibility and co-moderate the entire site. Call out shit from others when you see it. And in extreme cases call on the admins to ban trolls. The rest should take care of itself, IMO, and seems to.

" SaidIt has a "publish-or-perish" structure where even the best posts will vanish from sight in a day or two "

Ya, this has it's pros and cons. I don't know any different. I don't feel compelled to publish or to perish. It seems to me people will explore subs as the stumble on or subscribe to them. I'm often surprised when someone comments on a post that's a year and half old. IMO, SaidIt missed a great opportunity a year or more ago to actually lay down some rules about the subs and make this place more organized, for better referencing, researching, etc. The way Tilde does.

It doesn't help that I'm manic depressive. I might post a fuck tonne for 3 days and fade way back for 3 weeks - or 3 months. And have.

This week I managed to post some stuff AND managed to finish 1 almost 2 CSS themes. When done I apply it to a couple other subs too as I designed it to be super simple for anyone to customize. Finishing should be simple enough with focus.

I also have to focus on the May 22 birthday of WikiSpooks so I might pull back for a couple weeks. Thereafter, if I were smart I'd stay back and work on Bittersweet Seeds before September.

You made me laugh out loud at your profound insight into my decentralized decentralization thing. Sooo good.

There's a difference between "centralizing" and "aggregating" / "filtering" / "selecting" - in my mind if not on paper. SaidIt is a "centralizing" hub of information. Their stated goal is to eventually federate and decentralize and NotABug is helping them with that code. Hopefully, eventually SaidIt will be a hive mind of a hub that is distributed wide and far, potentially sharing the same aggregated content, but not all necessarily all sharing the same subs.

[–]Aureus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't come here from Reddit. I like things organized and I wanted topical subs to "file" my posts under.

This actually makes a lot of sense. I can see now why you run subs like that. In fact one of my biggest gripes with the Reddit post system is how quickly subreddits move, meaning valuable content gets buried by new posts in a day or two. Only posting the highest-quality content makes sense, although it does mean subs are a bit more like static pages of a website.

I often find myself longing for the old-school forum structure, where thread prominence was determined by activity rather than just newness and "upvotes". Truly contributive threads could stick around for years as long as they were active.

There's a difference between "centralizing" and "aggregating" / "filtering" / "selecting" - in my mind if not on paper. SaidIt is a "centralizing" hub of information.

I'm curious to know how you define the difference. These terms can get tricky though. In a neutral sense, "centralization" can simply mean putting things in a central place where they are more easily accessible (something I'd support). But in a negative sense, "centralization" can mean making members dependent on a system that's faulty or leaves them powerless (something I'd be against).

In addition, even though I like the term "decentralization", I feel like it falls short of describing the concept it represents. "Decentralization" seems to suggest a breaking down rather than a building up... it's petty, but I feel a term like "micro-centralization", "re-centralization", or "centralization for the people" would do a better job of describing it as an affirmative act. Not that I'm asking you to use any of those made-up terms, lol.

Also, feel free to let me know (or just take your time to respond) if I'm distracting you. I can take a really long time to write a comment sometimes as well, and it can eat into my time, so I completely understand where you're coming from.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ProTip: Mulitsubs - just view your favourite subs in one list.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/multisubs

After magnora7 had a meltdown and threatened to ban me I abandoned all my SaidIt projects for about half a year, and now it's coming on a year for some, including this project to categorize and multisub all the SaidIt subs for people convenience, at least as a starting point, from which they could copy and customize their own.

IMO, SaidIt has a golden opportunity to NOT be like Reddit and people should embrace trying new alternatives, even if they fail and return to the norms.

I agree with the old-forum idea too.

Centralized power is the enemy, because power corrupts absolutely. Aside from that meltdown for whatever reasons, I have yet to see any proof that SaidIt is compromised. Even still it does concern me that it's not a decentralized platform and the public has no easy backup, like WikiSpooks offers. There is no shortage of shit out there, and us SaidIt worker ants collect all the good stuff and bring it here - filtering the good from bad and aggregating. Call it centralizing or collecting or selecting or whatever if you want, and while information is power in a way, it's not raw power like authority or money. Information can battle information and while there may be winners and losers, there's also diverse views at odds that can still be perfectly valid yet contradictory. Authority cannot co-exist with other authority or it becomes a tribal war by economic, military, or other means like spy craft, psyops, propaganda, and 5th generation warfare.

I agree that our words like "decentralize" are limited. I'd prefer "distributed" but that has too many other connotations too.

I make no promises for prompt replies. Sometimes I do and sometimes not. The weekend is slow and instead of dueling wits in discussions I'd been doing other stuff - so my messages are still backed up, but not continuing to pile higher. In short, I welcome the dialogue. In the future I may be busy, but not distracted or annoyed - unless you say absurd things.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe he says it better: /s/DecentralizeAllThings/comments/4a7e/why_does_decentralization_matter_eugen_rochko/