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[–]GreenCappy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I don't get it why they don't want diversity. Minorities want to be represented! If there's 13% of black people in America, it's good to represent kinda the same amount in movies! Because it makes everyone not become a racist because their favorite movie characters are black for example!

[–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's not about racism. It's about creating conflict.

If you actually look at it, diversity can be just as harmful, if not more so. It has been weaponized. The people they let in are often intentionally problematic. Single young men are far more likely to commit crime than responsible older men with their families. ALL governments are at war with their own citizens, economically, socially, etc. Corona is a scam and prime example. Forced diversity criminals get off easy, intentionally. When there is chaos the government gets to write new laws in their favour. They want more power and control and will settle for nothing less than full spectrum dominance backed by their monopoly on violence.

I love my diverse relatives and friends in the many cities I've lived in. But forced diversity is a critical problem to socially engineer the world, just as the drugs the government controls and imports and spreads in certain communities.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What exactly is "forced diversity"? I've talked about media representation of minorities, not of immigrants. The government doesn't let in immigrants specifically from groups that are problematic. They just happen to be problematic because they're refugees war and from poor countries and it's logical that their socio-economic situation makes both that they're more likely to commit crimes and more likely to migrate to rich countries. But the government tries to help those people and also to make them less problematic by teaching tolerance also to them. And about they don't get away from the law, they're most likely to be put into prison and have harsher terms, actually. Just look at how the US police kills black people.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

First, if our governments weren't destroying them with bombs, they are infiltrating them with CIA to overthrow authentic democracy, or they are decimating their populations via economic warfare covertly, overtly, and when belligerently overt they call them "sanctions". If they stopped that people won't want to flee to a better place, they'd just make it better for themselves.

Forced diversity is importing refugees where none are wanted nor welcomed. Call those people racist if you want, but what they're doing is giving the refugees welfare that they aren't even giving their own citizens - and integrating the foreigners, who through no fault of their own, is very difficult and problematic - further stressing their new communities. That's only the tip of it. Look it up. Don't take my word for it. And above all, don't take the corporate media's word for it.

ACTUALLY, they DON'T get harsher terms. There's NO SHORTAGE of examples posted here on SaidIt about this problem.

The American Prison Industrial System is the only place left in the USA for legalized slavery. Yes you are correct that it is a HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM, especially the disproportionate Black people locked up. The system is totally racist. And forced diversity is not removed from this, but it's not really as big an overlap as you're implying, and forced diversity actually seems to be a much bigger problem in Europe. Unless you count the Hollywood propaganda where forced diversity and SJW politics is intentionally utterly destroying major franchises and entertainment in general, from movies to TV to games to music and more.

[–]comments 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

the US police are actually more hesitant to kill non-white people in interactions. and for the UK, look at how much the grooming gangs were covered up because the perps were mostly not white.

[–]comments 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

teaching tolerance also to them

they do???

[–]comments 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Disagree. Made me angrier to realize what was done with shoe-horning non-euros into euro mythology in some of my favorite shows growing up. Kids should have people of their own ethnic group to relate to.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, maybe people shouldn't make European mythology black or Asian sometimes (although they can do whatever they want because its an adaptation) , but also we need diversity in new media, such as new movies with completely new plots, it's better to have there both white, black and Asian people because kids wouldn't become racist.

[–]comments 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

it's better to have there both white, black and Asian people because kids wouldn't become racist.

No, it's not, it's better for people to be able to have media that's meant for them. And when people shoe-horn in non-euros it's called appropriation, and it's a bad thing.

It's not appropriate for a euro kid to feel like it's not ok for them to relate to and like euro stuff for euro people. Nobody ever does this with media for anyone but euro people. Nobody's going to a syangogue and talking about how we need to insert Aboriginal Australians into the story of Moses in every and all contexts that little Jewish kids here about it so that they won't be -ist against them. Nobody's talking about how it's a problem that African media doesn't not only include but center Saami people and influence in any and all stories they tell about themselves so they won't become -ist against them. Or how Koi-San people need to always be included in tellings of Inuit traditional stories in all contexts. Or why it's wrong for Aboriginal Australians to tell their tales without centering the influence of Lesbians (actual Lesbians, from the mediterranean island) in their history.

I think it's wrong when people do this, and I'm angry looking back at how this was done. At the time, yes, I believed it was a positive thing as stated, but it's increasingly difficult to believe that now with how blatant it's become. Things are celebrated for lacking white people now, even when they center white history! Wakanda was a story about European technology. Look up who Obama chose to do his presidential portrait. I had been so happy when he was elected!

Racist isn't a real concept, it's a political weapon. It's just a concept made to stigmatize white ethnocentrism, that's how it's always functioned. Is anyone seriously trying to do anything about ethnocentrism or ethnic pride in any other group? Latino celebration rather conspicuously tends to avoid celebrating and explicitly connecting to its European half, surely that's a problem? And African American culture certainly isn't taught to value the contributions of Europeans to their development. Nor are Amerindians, whose image is largely associated with something that came to them from Europe -- the horse. Ethnocentrism is a normal, healthy, and necessary impulse and doesn't at all preclude international friendship, alliances, cooperation -- rather the opposite -- good fences make good neighbors, and all that.

Euros are objectively one of the least ethnocentric people on the entire planet. If you want to work on it, I'd suggest starting with Jews. They are among the most. We need to stop telling Jewish stories that don't center non-Jews, because Jews do objectively often think they're better as seen in polls and stuff. If they follow their religion, they dehumanize others as their religion tells them to. If one thinks making judgements about groups in that way is a problem, that is a far more urgent issue.

Or don't pick Jewish culture, whatever, I just get irked with Jewish people doing this kind of thing because of the hypocrisy. And they are one of the most ethnocentric groups. I don't know anything about you, maybe you're a big protestor of Israel or something, I mean in the general context we're all existing in right now. Literally any other group but euros is in bigger need of this alteration to their stories.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Except that 1. afro americans are a huge part of the US population and making US movies without them is unrealistic 2. People all around the world watch Hollywood.

[–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Since you didn't reply to what I said, should I just assume you agree with everything I said? "racism" is a political concept invented as a way to hurt whites? if it were a real concept then the people who most need outsiders added to their stories are literally all groups except whites, including Jews, Inuit, Africans in general, Koi-san people specifically, African Americans, Amerindians in general? that it's good and right for everyone (including whites) to have stories about them for them depicting them? shoe-horning outsiders into someone else's stories is an act of appropriation, and is wrong? I'm right to be angry about what was done with the stories I saw as a child, and about Obama's choice of portrait artist? You now understand why the concept of "racism" is a political weapon meant to harm a specific group of people, something you'd never want to participate in, when you must not have understood before since you used the word?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So if a white person calls a black people "shitty nigger" it's not racist? Or if a black girl says she hates all white people it's lot racism?

[–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because "racism" is a concept invented to attack whites, the opposite is the reality. Anti-white sentiment is generally not removed on reddit, twitter, etc, whether it comes from black people, white people, jewish people, asian people, amerindian people, whoever.

Since you still didn't respond to what I said, I guess I'll have to make it simple. Let's start with:

Do you now see how "racism" is a political concept invented as a way to hurt whites?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're both racist. Instead of calling them shitty or hateful people the prejudice it, politically.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

also white, black, and asian is a bit... like... a vietmanese person is not the same as a han chinese person. a sentinel islander is not the same as a west african is not the same as an aboriginal australian. and where do people like the piraha fit into this, are they a type of "asian" who would be just as well represented by that guy from "gangnam style" (a very racist production, btw, no non-east-asians present in the video)?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree, it's just general "races", it's, better to represent all ethnicities in sons, ways. But it's not the point.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

do you think gangnam style is racist?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. I don't think just excluding races at all is racist, it's just annoying but if it's made a lot of times it is indeed racist. But in Korea there's not so much minorities, unlike in the US where afro Americans are important.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Korea does have minorities... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Korea#Foreign_population

So k-pop is racist?

[–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it makes everyone not become a racist because their favorite movie characters are black for example!

One of my favorite movie character growing up was black. In a story I was probably drawn to because it was completely saturated with European aesthetic and mythology.

And I'm angry about it. I'm angry that this story wasn't represented by the appropriate characters. I'm angry that there is explicitly anti-white content included in it, looking back. I'm angry that I don't now have someone to look up to who looks like me and comes from a similar place as me. I'm angry that when an abusive black person comes along to degrade white people (as is extremely common, just ask mixed people who have to deal with feeling like an outsider among both blacks and whites, who usually treats them worse), they can use this character that used to inspire me to mock and degrade me and detatch me from a source of inspiration. I'm angry that if I want to retreat somewhere for inspiration and comfort in a world that is explicitly hostile to my race, I can no longer as easily turn to this childhood hero. I'm angry that people knowingly put me in this position because they didn't think I was important enough because I'm too white.

The overall experience has made me more race-aware and race-protective, not less.

And the only reason I thought of this was because someone with presumably similar views to you came along and said, "white people have never had to identify with non-white characters". They were wrong.

And if your answer is anything other than, "I'm sorry that happened to you, you're important, it shouldn't have, and now that I know about it we need to work to correct this problem" you're not someone who's nobly advocating to make sure the world is a good and safe place for everyone. Because if you were -- if by buying into your ideology I was protecting not only others but myself also -- you would be just as capable of compassion and genuine support towards me as you are towards everyone else who openly hates me for nothing other than the color of my skin.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's stopping black people creating their own movies?