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[–]ctvzbuxr 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (47 children)

I can assure you that the people you call out are just as repulsed by your ideology as you are of theirs. Still, even though I disagree with your leftism, I welcome you here. This place is for free exchange of ideas. Any dialogue can only help bring people together.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (46 children)

Except if they hate me for something I can't change, such as my ethnicity or my skin color and I hate them for their intolerant beliefs, but I wouldn't hate them anymore if they've changed their beliefs and would tolerate my existence its actually different.

[–]Velocity 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (39 children)

I've been around quite a bit, and I don't think people hate you as much as you have come to believe because of your skin color. From what I've gathered, most people who may seem like they're being racist are actually being reactionary in frustration to "diversity" being implemented by force, which is also inherently tied into most left leaning ideologies.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I don't get it why they don't want diversity. Minorities want to be represented! If there's 13% of black people in America, it's good to represent kinda the same amount in movies! Because it makes everyone not become a racist because their favorite movie characters are black for example!

[–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's not about racism. It's about creating conflict.

If you actually look at it, diversity can be just as harmful, if not more so. It has been weaponized. The people they let in are often intentionally problematic. Single young men are far more likely to commit crime than responsible older men with their families. ALL governments are at war with their own citizens, economically, socially, etc. Corona is a scam and prime example. Forced diversity criminals get off easy, intentionally. When there is chaos the government gets to write new laws in their favour. They want more power and control and will settle for nothing less than full spectrum dominance backed by their monopoly on violence.

I love my diverse relatives and friends in the many cities I've lived in. But forced diversity is a critical problem to socially engineer the world, just as the drugs the government controls and imports and spreads in certain communities.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What exactly is "forced diversity"? I've talked about media representation of minorities, not of immigrants. The government doesn't let in immigrants specifically from groups that are problematic. They just happen to be problematic because they're refugees war and from poor countries and it's logical that their socio-economic situation makes both that they're more likely to commit crimes and more likely to migrate to rich countries. But the government tries to help those people and also to make them less problematic by teaching tolerance also to them. And about they don't get away from the law, they're most likely to be put into prison and have harsher terms, actually. Just look at how the US police kills black people.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

First, if our governments weren't destroying them with bombs, they are infiltrating them with CIA to overthrow authentic democracy, or they are decimating their populations via economic warfare covertly, overtly, and when belligerently overt they call them "sanctions". If they stopped that people won't want to flee to a better place, they'd just make it better for themselves.

Forced diversity is importing refugees where none are wanted nor welcomed. Call those people racist if you want, but what they're doing is giving the refugees welfare that they aren't even giving their own citizens - and integrating the foreigners, who through no fault of their own, is very difficult and problematic - further stressing their new communities. That's only the tip of it. Look it up. Don't take my word for it. And above all, don't take the corporate media's word for it.

ACTUALLY, they DON'T get harsher terms. There's NO SHORTAGE of examples posted here on SaidIt about this problem.

The American Prison Industrial System is the only place left in the USA for legalized slavery. Yes you are correct that it is a HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM, especially the disproportionate Black people locked up. The system is totally racist. And forced diversity is not removed from this, but it's not really as big an overlap as you're implying, and forced diversity actually seems to be a much bigger problem in Europe. Unless you count the Hollywood propaganda where forced diversity and SJW politics is intentionally utterly destroying major franchises and entertainment in general, from movies to TV to games to music and more.

[–]comments 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

the US police are actually more hesitant to kill non-white people in interactions. and for the UK, look at how much the grooming gangs were covered up because the perps were mostly not white.

[–]comments 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

teaching tolerance also to them

they do???

[–]comments 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Disagree. Made me angrier to realize what was done with shoe-horning non-euros into euro mythology in some of my favorite shows growing up. Kids should have people of their own ethnic group to relate to.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, maybe people shouldn't make European mythology black or Asian sometimes (although they can do whatever they want because its an adaptation) , but also we need diversity in new media, such as new movies with completely new plots, it's better to have there both white, black and Asian people because kids wouldn't become racist.

[–]comments 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

it's better to have there both white, black and Asian people because kids wouldn't become racist.

No, it's not, it's better for people to be able to have media that's meant for them. And when people shoe-horn in non-euros it's called appropriation, and it's a bad thing.

It's not appropriate for a euro kid to feel like it's not ok for them to relate to and like euro stuff for euro people. Nobody ever does this with media for anyone but euro people. Nobody's going to a syangogue and talking about how we need to insert Aboriginal Australians into the story of Moses in every and all contexts that little Jewish kids here about it so that they won't be -ist against them. Nobody's talking about how it's a problem that African media doesn't not only include but center Saami people and influence in any and all stories they tell about themselves so they won't become -ist against them. Or how Koi-San people need to always be included in tellings of Inuit traditional stories in all contexts. Or why it's wrong for Aboriginal Australians to tell their tales without centering the influence of Lesbians (actual Lesbians, from the mediterranean island) in their history.

I think it's wrong when people do this, and I'm angry looking back at how this was done. At the time, yes, I believed it was a positive thing as stated, but it's increasingly difficult to believe that now with how blatant it's become. Things are celebrated for lacking white people now, even when they center white history! Wakanda was a story about European technology. Look up who Obama chose to do his presidential portrait. I had been so happy when he was elected!

Racist isn't a real concept, it's a political weapon. It's just a concept made to stigmatize white ethnocentrism, that's how it's always functioned. Is anyone seriously trying to do anything about ethnocentrism or ethnic pride in any other group? Latino celebration rather conspicuously tends to avoid celebrating and explicitly connecting to its European half, surely that's a problem? And African American culture certainly isn't taught to value the contributions of Europeans to their development. Nor are Amerindians, whose image is largely associated with something that came to them from Europe -- the horse. Ethnocentrism is a normal, healthy, and necessary impulse and doesn't at all preclude international friendship, alliances, cooperation -- rather the opposite -- good fences make good neighbors, and all that.

Euros are objectively one of the least ethnocentric people on the entire planet. If you want to work on it, I'd suggest starting with Jews. They are among the most. We need to stop telling Jewish stories that don't center non-Jews, because Jews do objectively often think they're better as seen in polls and stuff. If they follow their religion, they dehumanize others as their religion tells them to. If one thinks making judgements about groups in that way is a problem, that is a far more urgent issue.

Or don't pick Jewish culture, whatever, I just get irked with Jewish people doing this kind of thing because of the hypocrisy. And they are one of the most ethnocentric groups. I don't know anything about you, maybe you're a big protestor of Israel or something, I mean in the general context we're all existing in right now. Literally any other group but euros is in bigger need of this alteration to their stories.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Except that 1. afro americans are a huge part of the US population and making US movies without them is unrealistic 2. People all around the world watch Hollywood.

[–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Since you didn't reply to what I said, should I just assume you agree with everything I said? "racism" is a political concept invented as a way to hurt whites? if it were a real concept then the people who most need outsiders added to their stories are literally all groups except whites, including Jews, Inuit, Africans in general, Koi-san people specifically, African Americans, Amerindians in general? that it's good and right for everyone (including whites) to have stories about them for them depicting them? shoe-horning outsiders into someone else's stories is an act of appropriation, and is wrong? I'm right to be angry about what was done with the stories I saw as a child, and about Obama's choice of portrait artist? You now understand why the concept of "racism" is a political weapon meant to harm a specific group of people, something you'd never want to participate in, when you must not have understood before since you used the word?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So if a white person calls a black people "shitty nigger" it's not racist? Or if a black girl says she hates all white people it's lot racism?

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

also white, black, and asian is a bit... like... a vietmanese person is not the same as a han chinese person. a sentinel islander is not the same as a west african is not the same as an aboriginal australian. and where do people like the piraha fit into this, are they a type of "asian" who would be just as well represented by that guy from "gangnam style" (a very racist production, btw, no non-east-asians present in the video)?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree, it's just general "races", it's, better to represent all ethnicities in sons, ways. But it's not the point.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

do you think gangnam style is racist?

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. I don't think just excluding races at all is racist, it's just annoying but if it's made a lot of times it is indeed racist. But in Korea there's not so much minorities, unlike in the US where afro Americans are important.

[–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it makes everyone not become a racist because their favorite movie characters are black for example!

One of my favorite movie character growing up was black. In a story I was probably drawn to because it was completely saturated with European aesthetic and mythology.

And I'm angry about it. I'm angry that this story wasn't represented by the appropriate characters. I'm angry that there is explicitly anti-white content included in it, looking back. I'm angry that I don't now have someone to look up to who looks like me and comes from a similar place as me. I'm angry that when an abusive black person comes along to degrade white people (as is extremely common, just ask mixed people who have to deal with feeling like an outsider among both blacks and whites, who usually treats them worse), they can use this character that used to inspire me to mock and degrade me and detatch me from a source of inspiration. I'm angry that if I want to retreat somewhere for inspiration and comfort in a world that is explicitly hostile to my race, I can no longer as easily turn to this childhood hero. I'm angry that people knowingly put me in this position because they didn't think I was important enough because I'm too white.

The overall experience has made me more race-aware and race-protective, not less.

And the only reason I thought of this was because someone with presumably similar views to you came along and said, "white people have never had to identify with non-white characters". They were wrong.

And if your answer is anything other than, "I'm sorry that happened to you, you're important, it shouldn't have, and now that I know about it we need to work to correct this problem" you're not someone who's nobly advocating to make sure the world is a good and safe place for everyone. Because if you were -- if by buying into your ideology I was protecting not only others but myself also -- you would be just as capable of compassion and genuine support towards me as you are towards everyone else who openly hates me for nothing other than the color of my skin.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's stopping black people creating their own movies?

[–]FreeJulianAssange 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

There is a bit of that sure. But then there are also lots of people who can't write anything without mentioning jews. Like they'll find a way to mention them in a cake recipe post lol. Don't use jewish sugar!

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Those who discuss Jews have half the story.

It's not the Jews that are the problem.

Brainwashed like everyone else, the Jews are the human shields of the ZIonists, the real problem.

More Christian Zionists exist in the world than Jewish Zionists, however, at the top it's mostly Jewish Zionists in charge.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

That's TDS.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

TDS?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's a shill thing. ;-)

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Those Damn Shills?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

JC...

Left-leaners don't call themselves leftists.

The Israelis are pretty much the only ones who use this term.

See the intro title.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I do. I came from the solid old-left, with a priority on the environment and compassion, collectively or otherwise. I've since come close to center and even right on many issues, but above all I've become a solid voluntarist, where I was a voluntarist in theory before-ish. I lean way down and a little left, like my dick. It's easy for noobies to understand "left-leaning", meaning close to center yet not extreme.

What intro title?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm a leftist but I'm here

He's a fake lefty

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Having limited awareness doesn't make one fake. Proof?

[–]comments 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

can't write anything without mentioning jews. Like they'll find a way to mention them in a cake recipe post lol

Yet Jews invented an entire mandatory dietary system that some openly claim was to make it difficult to "share cake recipies" with everyone who doesn't happen to follow Judaism.

[–]GreenCappy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

True 😂

[–]ctvzbuxr 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Very few people hate anyone for his skin color or ethnicity. That would be an incredibly stupid belief to have. I don't think many people are that stupid or close-minded.

What you can do is gather data and statistics and compare different ethnicities based on that. You can't judge individuals this way. Like, if a high percentage of immigrants into the US vote Democrats, I can understand why a Republican or Libertarian wouldn't be too happy about masses of them being imported into their country via their taxes. I don't think this is such a controversial position to have; If immigrants reliably voted Republican, the US would probably have a borderwall visible from space right now. That doesn't mean Republicans hate brown people, they just don't like the system being rigged by immigration (this is obviously just one example, there are other points to it than that).

[–]Velocity 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if a high percentage of immigrants into the US vote Democrats, I can understand why a Republican or Libertarian wouldn't be too happy about masses of them being imported into their country via their taxes.

Well said, and this is exactly what's happening, which will invariably lead to balkanization, social conflict and civil unrest. It would appear at this point....mass immigration is the plan of the ruling class to use unwitting immigrants as pawns in the destruction of social cohesion in the U.S..

[–]GreenCappy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some people say racist slurs instead of discussing immigration.

[–]ctvzbuxr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah and fuck these people.