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[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

gays and those in the LGBT movement should be aware that the internationalists do not care about them. They hate them and are merely using them to push an agenda. It isn't only the promotion of homosexuality onto children either, it is much more than that. And I'm under the belief that you can do what you want and be what you want as long as you are not physically hurting another human being. However, it is the overt decadence and degeneracy pushed by Hollyweird, including incest, pedophilia, rape, sexual abuse, murder etc. It is clear that they want to obliterate the morale of the traditional family.

Just watch any of the trending mainstream music videos on Youtube. It's complete degeneracy, deprived of all which is good and decent.

[–]IamRedBeard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You know I dig and I look pretty close and I'm not saying there are not actors in Hollywood that haven't been convicted of abusing young Boys. Kevin Spacy should be in jail.

But hear me out for a second. There have been a lot of Conservatives that bashed pedophilia and homosexuality and been caught with young boys. Married men with Wives and kids. (Dont Go Away Yet) There have been Baptist ministers, youth pastors and men all over the Catholic faith accused and found guilty of fornication with children.

There are Conservative senators that demand their mistresses get abortions all the while telling us that we cant and shouldn't and passing laws against it. When the Po' every day man or woman get one because it is financially wise "it's evil and Moral Decay". That is weird is it not?

It is weird to me that when a baptist minister messes with a twelve year old boy that is somehow forgivable but if an open homosexual does it, well we gotta burn down Hollywood and the gays are taking over and destroying the moral fiber of humanity - yet somehow a man of the cloth gets a pass. You care to address that one?

Somehow the openly gay man is more predatory than the one hiding behind the cross. Baffling.

Maybe no matter what walk of life you take there are bound to be perverts and predators? It's is funny to me that for all the people all have been friends with that were gay none of them have had criminal records but I have known pastors that Have. And more than one that stood at the pulpit and spoke of sexual addiction. We have a lot of forgiveness and grace for those men - But little for the openly gay architect, or student or blue collar man.

Boggles my mind.

So you blame Hollywood for the Moral Degeneracy, and Ill just keep my kids away from men of the cloth. Because they are completely capable of Rape, Incest, decadence and pedophilia - Just as much as anybody anyplace else.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/05/pastor-who-repeatedly-raped-daughter-14-gets-light-sentence-because-jesus/

And you wonder why I was on a tie - raid today.

Hypocrisy abounds!!

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Strawman and reduction ad absurdum fallacies abound. Why are you polarizing the issue of pedophilia? Dennis Hastert raped little boys, he certainly didn't follow the values and principles of conservatism, despite he himself telling his followers that he was a conservative. And yeah, some conservatives, if that's how they want to myopically identify themselves as have been caught molesting children and adult women and men.

Rapists rape people. Rapists in the church, in synagogues, apostate Christians, apostate Jews, apostate Muslims, women, men, hererosexuals, homosexuals, drag queens, actors, truck drivers, accountants, etc.

Your source is the most laughable strawmen. What point are your trying to make. We all here despise pedophilia and molestation, no matter who does it.

Hey look, I could say the same thing. In the homosexual community there's a subset population, very small in size that molests young boys at an unprecedented rate. In order for heterosexual men to rape young girls at the same frequency annually, it would take 80 million heterosexuals to less than 2 million homosexuals. But wait homosexuals don't rape that much, they're nice people. Yeah, they are!!! Most homosexuals are nice peopel who help out their community. So there's a small subset of the homosexual population that rapes and molests at an unprecendented frequency repeatedly. So, likely there's a pedestry subset culture. That is the truth, and in teh heterosexual community there too is a pedestry subset culture.

But guess what I'm not going to say it's all homosexuals or that it's a 'predatory conservative ideology', as if the valeus and principles of conservatism some how create pedophiles. I don't play the partisan card like you like to do.

[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I went to East Texas when I was seventeen. I had no opinion on Homosexuals one way or another. Tyler Texas is one of those "buckles" in the Bible belt.

Well I had some engine trouble and cell phones weren't popular yet. After over an hour of trying to wave down many Good Christians a couple finally picked me up. They were queer as a football bat. Also had a nice girl with them.

They got me to a phone, lent me over a hundred dollars for a tow - Put me and the girl in the back seat together - took us drinking and dancing and I dated that girl for almost three years.

Almost like human being's, that gay couple. One was a computer engineer and the other did underwater welding. Like Normal people. Never hit on me. Never weird or awkward and always - always helped in a pinch.

I thought for a bit you might be alright. A little out there, but alright.

I was mistaken. Just a Bigot that doesn't curse.

No. you will never convince me these people are bad or immoral. Sure some are. just like everybody else. Man, they just happen to be gay. They have the right to the American pursuit of happiness just like you and me. That is what makes America Great.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

God bless, homosexuals are NOT immoral in soul, I love all people, including the most morally deprived sociopaths at the upper echelon of power and wealth, though, I'm a Christian, so I think homosxuality is a sin, same with sodomy. That means sodomy done by a homosexual or heterosexual. Is that too hard to understand? That doesn't mean I hate gays or think their entire being is immoral! In life we have freewill, God guides us. I do not priase homosexuality, as a matter of fact, I do not priase the flesh nor the 'pride' of sexuality; whether it be heterosexuals or homosexuals or something else. The flesh is a burden.

It's cool that you have so many fond memories of gays. I have family friends who are gay and I love them and they are very nice people who do good things for the community.

It's weird that you're polarizing EVERY SINGLE COVERSATION. My stitch above on homosexuality and it's relationship with pedophilia was to show you how I TOO COULD polarize the conversation and blame everything on homosexuals. I don't because we all here are against rape, and molestation. SO, I made the case that a subset of pedophilia exists in the homosexual community. A subset that the majority of homosexuals, the ones you're fond of would disprove of because they too think it is immoral.

I'M NOT CONVINCING YOU, your convincing yourself and trying to put words in people's mouths. I'm a Christian, so I think homosexuality is a sin. And we ALL SIN. I'm not saying that all gays are immoral because they are gay. We all do immoral things in life.

[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough. And I admit - I can see where I can come off as polarizing. Some people argue in bad faith, hit me with amazing fallacies and it leads me into some conversations with my fists and guard up. Sometimes I like a good fight. That is a personal flaw. I am glad you took the time to write back.

You seem like a good guy and further more, a gentleman. I disagree with a few things, but that is okay. I can disagree with those things and still see that your heart and motives seem to be in a genuine place.

Ill try to remember that you argue in good faith and I will stay on point.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This reads more like a strawman argument than anything substantial.

[–]IamRedBeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

(Sigh) I know you are trying, so instead lashing out at you like I would like I will help:

A fallacy is an argument or belief based on erroneous reasoning. Straw man is one type of logical fallacy. Straw man occurs when someone argues that a person holds a view that is actually not what the other person believes. Instead, it is a distorted version of what the person believes. So, instead of attacking the person's actual statement or belief, it is the distorted version that is attacked.

I'm not straw manning him. His point was "The Gay agenda" as they commonly put it is a form of Moral Decay in this country.

I used examples where those in great Moral Authority are just as corrupt if not WORSE than the example that he used.

He sees gay's in liberal Hollywood as morally debased and corrupting the world.

I see Conservative Morality as hypocritical and predatory because they hide their evil behind morality. I see what they are doing as morally debased and corrupting the world.

See the difference?

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Free enterprise, private ownership, traditional values. Most Conservatives are moral, most liberals.