What we do when things go wrong - Mozilla [Deleting all telemetry since May 4th if you had enabled it to get the fix]

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Man, I would trust Mozilla with my life.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're funny.

Or if you're not joking are foolish. Don't trust anything that big.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

please check that your settings match your personal preferences before we re-enable Studies, which will happen sometime after 2019-05-13T16:00:00Z

What does this mean? They will start collecting Studies data again on 5/13? Or they will force enable studies on 5/13?

Also I wonder why it took 4 days to release a proper fix.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They will start collecting Studies data again sometime after 2019-05-13T16:00:00Z, if you've got Studies enabled. They're telling everyone who doesn't want it on to turn it off by then.

It took 4 days because it's a tricky issue. Certificates are hard enough to deal with at the best of times… but when everyone's panicking it's so much harder.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ty. My next browser will not come with studies enabled by default.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Firefox ESR? That doesn't even allow enabling studies, and Screenshots is permanently in offline mode.

[–]sawboss 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

In order to respect our users’ potential intentions as much as possible, based on our current set up, we will be deleting all of our source Telemetry and Studies data for our entire user population collected between 2019-05-04T11:00:00Z and 2019-05-11T11:00:00Z.

Guess we'll just have to trust you on that. Asshats.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I trust Mozilla on this. All of the bad stuff they've done, they've admitted to. There've been no scandals where hidden Mozilla information has come out after the fact.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Then you're a fool. Google has admitted to infiltrating Mozilla and sabotaging it.

Don't trust any corporation or government. The bigger it is the less you should trust it.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Sabotage != damage integrity.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And...?

It's a dog eat dog world out there. Google is one of the fattest dogs.

Microsoft has similar famous policies.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Google have sabotaged Mozilla. That doesn't mean Mozilla will now steal people's personal info and hide it whilst lying about deleting it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That doesn't mean...

That doesn't mean you should trust them either.

Don't respond to me without rethinking it 20 times.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, it doesn't mean you should trust them. But I already have other reasons for trusting them – they haven't been revealed as having lied about this kind of thing yet, for one.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The corporate media keeps lyng to us and have admitting lies countless times. Trust is not earned because someone admits they're shit. They need to change their behavior, like you need to stop fucking responding.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They need to change their behaviour,

How often does Mozilla mess up like this? Nothing really comes to mind. That's why this is news. Though they have acknowledged that they need to change their systems to stop this happening again.

like you need to stop fucking responding.

If you don't like this conversation, why are you still having it? It takes two to respond; I'm not spamming you out of the blue.

[–]738 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, they will delete it. But not before sending all that data to Google.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Google is the vampire king of all data-sucking machines.