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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://deletionpedia.org/en/Swing_boarding Why does wiki hate spring boarders?

[–]TheRealPanzer[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Missing third-party reliable sources to show this is a notable product or activity.

Or so they say.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is a great idea.

It makes me wonder too, what if instead of just cataloging the deleted wiki articles, there was a site that had every version of every wiki article that has ever existed. So if some gatekeeper removes information someone has previously added, it would be visible on the other versions. That would truly be the most democratic version of wikipedia

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That would be very expensive to maintain. That's what Wikipedia was original built to do, but maintaining that much version history just took up too much space, so they were forced to do maintenance deletions.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Really? Seems possible, but I find that a bit hard to believe because it's just plaintext. Places like youtube or imgur house 1000x more data

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's millions of files of plaintext, each multipled hundreds of thousands of times by continual edits. That adds up, even with compression.

You're right in that storage space is relatively cheap, and with the right funding and infrastructure, it could be done, but Wikipedia isn't Youtube. It doesn't have multi-million dollar venture capital funding and hoards of advertisers waiting to give them money. It's mostly a volunteer operation being run by left-wing partisans who have to make every penny count. That's why they run that banner ad begging for money every other month.

Case in point, Imgur doesn't store images forever. It deletes them after a while. Youtube keeps things around indefinitely, but they're basically Google, and they're using that content to drive revenue, so they can afford it.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't they just store deltas and generate the versions based on that? And they do have the funds, as Panzer pointed out.

Also, do you have a source on the actual deletion of old revisions, plus details about their deletion strategy? I can't find anything about it.

[–]TheRealPanzer[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Its total funds, which have risen by about $200 million over the past five years, now stand at around $300 million. Its revenue has risen every year. In just the first nine months of its current financial year, it has raked in $142 million in donations according to an internal document—and already obliterated its previous annual record.": https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundraising

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, good points.