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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

yeah you should have built a wall, that is the main lesson here

why think people that conquered you and broke many agreements in the past would suddenly honor them.

what do you think of morning star bear, another larper?

[–]goobandit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

why think people that conquered you and broke many agreements in the past would suddenly honor them.

Because this nation was founded on Law, if we’re going to continue as a nation of law then that shit needs to be applied equally. The laws written for us are the only thing stopping them from completely stripping rights from all citizens. Our lands were granted to us as sovereign nations, if they can seize those lands for corporate interests, there is nothing stopping them from doing that to all citizens. This is why LANDBACK has been hijacked. This is why they have people like you arguing about a wall instead of who has the real power to dictate what happens on their PRIVATE PROPERTY, their SOVEREIGN LANDS. Are they going to strip the rights of CITIZENS in Arizona for occupying their own lands? If they do, then the charge would have to be REBELLION OR INSURRECTION. Funny how illegal immigrants and ALL those who aid them are not facing the same charges. Are you getting it yet?

what do you think of morning star bear, another larper?

She was caught LARPing and fired. Never heard of her before that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

this nation was founded by conquerers. I do give native americans, and other minorites credit, now you have it easy with affirmative action you even have white people like morning star and yourself pretending to be native american, which shows racism has reversed onto white people. But you should be wary about immigration, it will destroy white communities of course but what happens when it reaches the reservations? Build walls now.

[–]goobandit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

There’s already been illegal immigrants barred from my reservation for crimes against tribal people, so trust me, I’m aware.

In AZ, it’s their land to decide if they want a wall or not, regardless of what you and I think, regardless of the greater impact for immigration UNLESS the gov admits they’re aiding a rebellion or insurrection, in which case they are guilty AND SO IS EVERY ORG HELPING IMMIGRANTS. I’m not even opposed to borders, how can I be if I’m defending property? These no border NGOs pollute our causes with global bullshit because they don’t want anyone but them to own land! The fact is that area of border is tribal property and their tribe’s decision. It’s either theirs or the government can take it back, take their sovereignty back, take their citizenship back, and take yours back too.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

barred? technically they're barred from coming into the entire USA but what good is a law if not enforced. Would the native american police authroties deport an illegal if they found one? I am sure they would. As is their right.

I'd assume you would want to expand your borders, to not just be forced onto small reservations but to take back land that was long ago stolen by immigrants from europe. That won't be happening due to any agreements, or contracts, only by war, and the barrel of a gun. You should want to anyways. It is also human nature to want to expand borders, it has happened, all of history is fighting over land. Native Americans are also being by a great replacement, numbers are dwindling due to inbreeding, lower birth rates, poor healthcare, some day perhaps they will be gone and the reservations will just be taken back.

It's not a states issue it's a fed govt issue to enforce the borders.

[–]goobandit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'd assume you would want to expand your borders, to not just be forced onto small reservations but to take back land that was long ago stolen by immigrants from europe.

Original goal of Landback movement, to expand land and hold stewardship over greater areas. Some tribes just wanted land acknowledgment.

It's not a states issue it's a fed govt issue to enforce the borders.

And they only do when it comes to regular citizens, while people working in government offices donate and receive donations from orgs to further illegal immigration.

And like you said, it’s up to the fed gov whether or not to deport someone. I believe if found on tribal property, the person will be taken to a federal prison facility, but I’m not 100%

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Do you mean though, if an illegal immigrant is found on your reservation, the native american authroties, whomever they may be, I mean whomever is in charge, they will detain that person then drive and deliver them to some federal prison? That would make sense, it would be a longer drive and unnecessary to drive them all the way to mexico or whatever country. It's your soverign land though so the main thing you would care about is getting them out of it.

[–]goobandit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Usually they issue notice that the person is barred in the newspaper AFTER they’ve already been removed from the reservation. And yeah, if you commit a felony on reservation, you go to federal prison. Even if it’s a tribal member committing a felony, they might be held for a bit in tribal jail, but same.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I guess that's fine as long as they go to a prison, would you want to create and maintain your own huge prisons, probably not. Would you be angry at all if say a tribal member did commit a felony, it's proven guilty and all, but the fed govt decided to let them out of prison? Sometimes they do that, shortening sentences for woke reasons or because of the pandemic.

[–]Heterophobe4Life 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Said the racist.

[–]goobandit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Depends on what felony. My brother is in prison and is trying to get out early on some woke bullshit. I think he should stay, but I also am worried about who he’s with in there because there’s not a lot of natives. People in prison know we get money so I worry about him becoming gang affiliated and not knowing what the fuck that means. Kinda makes me wish we did keep them in our own prison on the reservation.